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Terrible class teacher causing concern amongst parents

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DodgyMcDodgerson · 01/02/2024 18:55

My son is in Year 2. To briefly summarise, his class teacher shouts at the class frequently, there’s alot of punishments both individual and whole class, alot of putting kids down and responding to them very abruptly.
most of the girls in the class are terrified of her (as in to the point some girls are crying coming into school, another little girl wet herself rather than interrupt the teacher to ask to go to the toilet. When the girls mother suggested her daughter had been nervous to put her hand up in case she got shouted at, the teacher completely dismissed this as unthinkable). There are a few boys in particular who she seems to really
single out to tell off, and these are lovely kids - not unruly or being disruptive. She’s telling one boy off for not understanding the work as an example. The kids are unanimous in their dislike of her. The parents in the class are unanimous in their dislike of her.Literally not heard one positive word about her.
one child has already transferred to a different school and there is talk of more
following.
bearing in mind that this is not even 6 months into a new job and in a class of 28 children there have already been at least 5 complaints (that I’m aware of) - is this teacher likely to remain at the school????

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JubileeJumps · 01/02/2024 20:28

alot isn't a word it's a lot

Speak to the head

spicedlemonpie · 01/02/2024 20:53

Ive never liked schools not keen on teachers either best day of life was walking out.
Worse days of my life was my children had to go school then best days came back when they left.
Thank god them days are over.

Crackoncrackerjack · 01/02/2024 20:55

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Bythefireside · 01/02/2024 20:59

Why do people assume teachers are saints who can do no wrong? My son was bullied so badly by a teacher both he and teacher had to gave weekly meetings with the head to sort it out. Teacher was vile.

spicedlemonpie · 01/02/2024 21:00

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Yes but i can`t be bothered to use it here as most mumsnet bullies are teachers.

Crackoncrackerjack · 01/02/2024 21:01

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spicedlemonpie · 01/02/2024 21:02

Bythefireside · 01/02/2024 20:59

Why do people assume teachers are saints who can do no wrong? My son was bullied so badly by a teacher both he and teacher had to gave weekly meetings with the head to sort it out. Teacher was vile.

I know how you must have felt i went through the same with my son.

spicedlemonpie · 01/02/2024 21:03

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Thats cringe.

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PTSDBarbiegirl · 01/02/2024 21:04

I'm assuming you are a support assistant in the school as you have witnessed so much first hand? I'd explain your concerns regarding only your own child. Back up every single concern by detailing context and circumstance of each and every incident. Refer to the school policies and where you are in possession of facts state the contraventions in detail. Can you do this?

veryfondoftea · 01/02/2024 21:04

We had a very similar situation with my DC teacher last year. It had such a huge impact on him. It's only this year when I saw him with a new teacher that I realised how bad it had been. Sadly there was no discussion amongst the parents. I have subsequently made a complaint to the head teacher but I really regret not doing anything last year. I would act now OP

Hooplahooping · 01/02/2024 21:04

Dancerprancer19 · 01/02/2024 19:05

I’m a teacher and there absolutely are bad teachers who either don’t know better or actively enjoy scaring children. They really should be got rid of because they do so much long term harm. I worked with someone like this, she was really quite evil.

I think you need to raise this formally with the headteacher. There is a recruitment crisis but sometimes people are temperamentally unsuitable to work with small children.

1000% agree with this.

There are plenty of hardworking dedicated teachers. But there are some also some people who are deeply unfit / just can’t cope / don’t understand the role.

there is a recruitment crisis - and it’s so hard to get rid of people that often they are ‘managed on’ with good references rather than dealt with properly.

I don’t teach any more. The issue with incompetent people is even more pronounced in secondary schools. Pay peanuts get…

definiely complain, robustly, through the proper channels. use concrete examples. Stick to first hand info from your child rather than hearsay.

spicedlemonpie · 01/02/2024 21:05

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yep i`ll keep it up🙄

FrancisSeaton · 01/02/2024 21:06

I can't believe what I see on here some times. Are people forgetting these are YEAR TWO children? So age 6/7?

Somaliwildass · 01/02/2024 21:09

It's ridiculous.that so many are asserting teachers aren't all saints or angels, as if most are the direct opposite. Most need to be firm to maintain order and encourage behaviour that's conducive to the learning of all, which is what they are there to achieve.

She's not 'shit' because the children know it would be rude to interrupt her - she'd be shit if nobody learned anything. She's not shit for shouting at a big group of children to get/keep their attention to instil a sense of discipline, rather she would be if she gave up or let things slide for an easy life.

Parents don't always teach their children that they need to behave well at school, and even if they do, don't see them trying it on when they're not around.

JaneKatSuttonGoals · 01/02/2024 21:10

If your child has an issue - raise it with the teacher. Specific issue/incident - "I am a little concerned about xyz & tje impact it's having on a & b. Is there an issue I need to be aware of blah blah
If you don't get a reasonable response raise it with phase leader or equivalent.
Don't be generic everyone's saying / other people's issues

WhereDidTheSunshineGo · 01/02/2024 21:11

Keep complaining

she’ll leave

you ll then have lots to complain about when they don’t have an actual teacher for the rest of the year

duvetdayy · 01/02/2024 21:11

I’ve inherited a class who seemed to think they didn’t have to respect adults this year.

They are now very well behaved (with me - any other adult is fair game apparently although this is improving) but that has only been achieved through me having to be stricter than I have ever been. It’s like a PP said - the amount of low level disruption was mental. Like why are you as a 10 year old making baby noises while I’m teaching 🤔

That said, there’s being strict and there’s being horrible and I’ve seen teachers fall on the wrong side of it. Parents absolutely can gang up on teachers for no good reason but teachers can also get it wrong and lose perspective of their own behaviour. If you have concerns I think you should raise them. Teachers are human and some of them are not nice!!!

Fairyflaps · 01/02/2024 21:16

When my son was in KS1, his teacher was having a breakdown - as we realised later. My DS would come home with all sorts of stories about things that had happened in class, and many of his classmates found the lack of classroom management, being shouted at a lot, being told off for no reason, and some frankly odd behaviour challenging. I can't believe the head teacher was unaware of what was happening, but he was an appalling manager and didn't intervene.
With the benefit of hindsight, I wish we had put more pressure on the head teacher to do something, so the teacher could have got the help she needed sooner. As it was, she never recovered.

BlindurErBóklausMaður · 01/02/2024 21:25

DodgyMcDodgerson · 01/02/2024 19:06

Nope, she’s not been discussed on the WhatsApp group.

😂
Behave.

RheaRend · 01/02/2024 21:36

There are some bad teachers - that goes without saying but you mustn't go on playground gossip only on facts relating to your own child nothing else. The parents' whatsapp can be vile and teacher harassing place and can really show bullying at its finest.

If the teacher does something that you are unhappy with to your son then you discuss it with the teacher or the head as applicable. If it doesn't involve your son then say well out of the pack mentality as it could be bullying and harassing the teacher as it is in most cases.

I have some kids coming into my class crying from time to time - nothing to do with them hating me but because of a range of factors. Some cry because they do not want to work and do not have a good work ethic and want to be excused from this. Guess what happens in this situation - the parents rant on whatsapp about the teacher being the nastiest and targeting their child! I've seen some horrific things on those whatsapp groups and the majority of it untrue. While this doesn't mean in this instance it is a lie, ppl who rally the troops are often the cause of the problem.

cherish123 · 01/02/2024 21:46

"These kids are not disruptive" - how do you know?
Sounds as though the class may be responding badly to a teacher who is disciplining them. It's not the teacher's fault the child didn't ask to go to the toilet!

cherish123 · 01/02/2024 21:47

@Aquamarine1029 seriously!

DaisyDaffodil · 01/02/2024 21:50

There’s a very similar thread on the Primary Education Boards…

Sunshineismyfavourite · 01/02/2024 21:52

I'd email the HT and explain your concerns. I would be almost certain that the HT is already aware of the concerns about this specific teacher. You have every right to express your worries - don't be afraid to speak up.

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