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Asking employer to cover childcare costs

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Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 05:33

I’ve been asked to go on a business trip for a week, is it unreasonable to ask the company to pay the incremental childcare costs?

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Toomuch2019 · 01/02/2024 06:10

Our organisation would allow expenses for childcare if you were being asked to come in on a contracted non working day and had to pay childcare as a result. But not so much for something like this.

However if you didn't come due to the extra costs we would be understanding. It wouldn't be held against you but we would send someone else

PickledPurplePickle · 01/02/2024 06:10

YABU employers don’t cover childcare costs, that’s up to you to sort out

Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 06:13

@NCgoingdry no it won’t affect my career, I appreciate it’s always positive to meet and interact with the teams elsewhere but fundamentally it won’t benefit me.
honestly I’m not negative about the trip at all, I can crack on, my husband can manage. My issue is why should I be out of pocket by hundreds of pounds when providing my employer a service I would think outwidth of my day to day duties

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Redcar78 · 01/02/2024 06:15

Wadermellone · 01/02/2024 05:40

It really depends. Is travel part of the role?

If it’s not and this is a one off and there’s only you that can do it. They may well do. But there could also be tax implications. Not saying there definitely is but there could be. They can’t just bung an extra £200 in your wage with no reasoning. For audit purposes.

if it is part of role I can’t imagine they would. They pay a wage based on the expectations. You were aware of the job and the terms, outside expenses would be yours.

At my employer if someone said they couldn’t travel due to increased childcare costs and wanted those costs paid, we would send someone else. Not a chance we would set a precedent of paying for increased childcare costs.

This cost wouldn't be a part of your wages, it would be an expense being claimed back in the same way you claim for a hotel, it's not part of your salary 🤷‍♀️ so no tax implications. If you're incurring extra costs by being asked to travel you should be able to claim them back in the same way you claim the extra travel costs.

Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 06:16

@youveturnedupwelldone haha! Exactly….it’s no safari in Botswana

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BlindurErBóklausMaður · 01/02/2024 06:17

Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 05:38

My contract is very blaze….unlimited hours, travel as required, location as deemed necessary…….however I work from the office 9-5 and have done for the past 8 years

And there's your answer
Please don't make it harder than it already is for women to work and have children.

SunshineAndRainbowsToday · 01/02/2024 06:17

Childcare is your responsibility. If it wasn't listed in your contract that travel was potentially part of the role and this was extra, then I think you could ask. If you don't have to do it and don't want to pay, say no.

NCgoingdry · 01/02/2024 06:17

@Totupthenumberspls Then the answer is obvious? Don't go? No one is hauling you onto the plane.

Sorry Employer - unless you're going to cover the additional £300 expenses I'll occur in wraparound childcare, I'm not going.

Brefugee · 01/02/2024 06:18

Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 05:55

@letstrythatagain fair enough. I guess pre child it was never an issue and I wasn’t fussed. Now it impacts me and my partner. I suppose I thought If there was a precedence that I don’t travel in my role it seems a bit unreasonable to enforce it based on a generic contract

Ah. So like my younger colleagues it didn't interest you until you had children?

Harsh of me possibly. But anyway. No. You can ask them to pay your childcare. But they'll probably laugh.

Mumof2teens79 · 01/02/2024 06:19

I don't think my company would pay, but it would be fine to say no on the basis of childcare.
I would leave the kids with OH, if he was also away I just wouldn't go.
A colleague who is single parent relies on her parents

Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 06:19

@BlindurErBóklausMaður how am I making it harder?

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Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 06:20

@NCgoingdry that’s my plan

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Spangler · 01/02/2024 06:21

Botswana is definitely somewhere you can go on Safari…

Just to be clear, are you asking about childcare that you need because you’ll be working days you don’t normally work? Or childcare because your DH can’t manage without you?

Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 06:21

@Brefugee well yes obviously, why would childcare costs interest me before children

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Danfromdownunder · 01/02/2024 06:22

I’d sense saying no or asking for childcare payments may be somewhat career limiting…

Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 06:22

@Spangler son is in nursery full time, im asking for the incremental cover as I won’t be able to do drop off and pick up

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Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 06:24

@Danfromdownunder thats ok as my career is already limited!

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Deargodletitgo · 01/02/2024 06:24

I'd ask, some companies will and work with childcare providers to provide staff with free emergency childcare through a company called My Family Care. Or ask if you use your regular child care provider if they will reimburse? Don't ask, don't get

Youcannotbeseriousreally · 01/02/2024 06:25

Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 05:36

But I don’t need to be there….why should I pay an additional ~£300 in childcare

Says who? Seems like your employer thinks you need to be!!

just pay for the childcare and do your job!

ElaineMBenes · 01/02/2024 06:26

Men wouldn’t ask because their wives would be expected to cover ….

I travel regularly, I've never asked for childcare costs as I expect my husband to cover........

SnowsFalling · 01/02/2024 06:26

Ways we have covered travel in the past:
DH has requested late starts to accomadate nursery hours
DH has taken annual leave
My Mum has traveled up for a couple of nights
DHs parents have visited for a week

Requesting childcare as an expense wouldn't have gone down well. Ocasional travel was in my contract, and so I was deemed to be paid enough. Note "deemed" isn't necessarily the reality!

ElaineMBenes · 01/02/2024 06:28

Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 06:22

@Spangler son is in nursery full time, im asking for the incremental cover as I won’t be able to do drop off and pick up

Then your husband needs to make arrangements to be available for drop offs and pick ups 🤷🏼‍♀️

Brefugee · 01/02/2024 06:29

ElaineMBenes · 01/02/2024 06:26

Men wouldn’t ask because their wives would be expected to cover ….

I travel regularly, I've never asked for childcare costs as I expect my husband to cover........

Same. And once when I spent a week on a different continent my mum flew over for a week to help him (we live in a different country to our families)

lemonsaretheonlyfruit · 01/02/2024 06:29

Whilst I understand your question/ position, in reality most people see it as their own responsibility to make it work without expecting anything from their employer. Couples juggle things around. Can your DH not rearrange some of the days at least with his work and you cover the rest if money is an issue for you?

Why should it fall to your employer before the DCs own parents? I'm not being unsympathetic as I do understand what you are saying but my employer wouldn't be my immediate go to solution.

Totupthenumberspls · 01/02/2024 06:30

I’m amazed at the negative response on here! Any other expense would be covered, but I guess I’m being unreasonable

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