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To think we are considerably richer than yaw

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ChedderGorgeous · 30/01/2024 13:36

Mumsnet is rife with people either asking how people make so much money (and obviously ignored family duties in doing so), or others outraged that people might be envious of them as 'higher earners'. I think it's because it's very British not to ask about money irl, when a forum allows such anonymous questions it turns into a mudpit of arguments. Perhaps if we were more open like Americans, there wouldn't be underlying resentment?

To think we are considerably richer than yaw
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Overtheatlantic · 30/01/2024 14:12

I’m American living in England. In the past 10 years I’ve been asked by work colleagues if my jeans were expensive, TOLD that my perfume was expensive, that I live in a posh neighbourhood, and asked if my bracelet was expensive. All by different women. I have been mortified by the level of rudeness directed at me. I always thought the English were supposed to be polite. 😳

CactusMactus · 30/01/2024 14:12

I am open about my salary irl. Im not embarrassed about what I earn.

ChedderGorgeous · 30/01/2024 14:15

Overtheatlantic · 30/01/2024 14:12

I’m American living in England. In the past 10 years I’ve been asked by work colleagues if my jeans were expensive, TOLD that my perfume was expensive, that I live in a posh neighbourhood, and asked if my bracelet was expensive. All by different women. I have been mortified by the level of rudeness directed at me. I always thought the English were supposed to be polite. 😳

I think this is because everyone is "well jel", however it's pretty unlikely someone will come out and ask you your salary I'm guessing. If they did and you told them, they would say you were being brash and vulgar. It's something about the British psyche.

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Muchtoomuchtodo · 30/01/2024 14:16

I work for the NHS and have been at the top of my pay grade for ages so my salary is very easy to find out if anyone wanted to.

I don’t keep it secret but don’t offer the information if I’m not asked, why would you?

MidnightPatrol · 30/01/2024 14:18

“Mumsnet is rife with people either asking how people make so much money (and obviously ignored family duties in doing so)“

@ChedderGorgeous what do
you mean by ignoring family duties in doing so?

MorningSunshineSparkles · 30/01/2024 14:41

Go on and tell us then OP, how much do you earn? Do you live within your means or above it? Do you like to flash the cash or do you prefer to be modest in your spending habits when in the company of the great unwashed? (Last one’s tongue in cheek don’t worry Grin )

CarefulPython · 30/01/2024 14:43

I wish I had more money.
Some people have more money that me.
Some people have less money than me.

Thats about it really.

theemmadilemma · 30/01/2024 14:46

It's not just American to discuss salary. In fact most of the rest of the world does. I have direct reports in Hyderbad and Manila who most certainly do with their team mates.

We very much should be more open. It would help with the gender gap for a start.

Butchyrestingface · 30/01/2024 15:10

and obviously ignored family duties in doing so

Pray continue...

KarenNotAKaren · 30/01/2024 15:12

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ChedderGorgeous · 30/01/2024 15:26

Butchyrestingface · 30/01/2024 15:10

and obviously ignored family duties in doing so

Pray continue...

I'm saying there is often a backlash against people who say they are 'higher earners' through insinuation they have sacrificed time / experiences with thier family. If there was more openness about money generally, this resentment may not be there

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Anycrispsleft · 30/01/2024 15:42

I earn the fabled Mumsnet six-figure salary. I also have twins. I don't usually mention either of those things on here as they feature in a lot of troll threads, so mentioning them ensures that nobody will believe anything you say Grin

LifeExperience · 30/01/2024 15:43

I'm an American in my 60s and have never asked nor been asked how much money I make, how much wealth I have or how much something cost. It is considered rude to ask such things here.

The only place I have ever encountered an obsession about money or class is MN.

GintyMcGinty · 30/01/2024 17:45

@ChedderGorgeous

Yes exactly. And I'll assume it's because you earn so little

Why do you make that assumption?

ChedderGorgeous · 30/01/2024 18:06

GintyMcGinty · 30/01/2024 17:45

@ChedderGorgeous

Yes exactly. And I'll assume it's because you earn so little

Why do you make that assumption?

Please read whole thread

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GintyMcGinty · 30/01/2024 18:08

@ChedderGorgeous

You made that comment to my post on your thread.

I am simply asking you to explain why you made that assumption about me.

ChedderGorgeous · 30/01/2024 18:17

GintyMcGinty · 30/01/2024 18:08

@ChedderGorgeous

You made that comment to my post on your thread.

I am simply asking you to explain why you made that assumption about me.

Well as you can't read between the lines, I was satirising how the culture of secrecy around wages leads to tension, esp on mumsnet!

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GintyMcGinty · 30/01/2024 18:29

@ChedderGorgeous

Hilarious 🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Drudgeryofthissocalledlife · 30/01/2024 18:34

Is yaw, to be read as the satirisation of you are?

HopeThatHelps · 30/01/2024 18:34

ChedderGorgeous · 30/01/2024 18:06

Please read whole thread

I get the points you are making by the way!

nowthelighthasgone · 30/01/2024 18:37

ComtesseDeSpair · 30/01/2024 13:49

I’m very open about what I earn. I think it’s important, particularly for women, who often end up underpaid because they don’t ask for promotions or pay rises. If you’ve no reference point for what your peers earn and just assume that it must be similar to you, it makes it harder to fight for what you’re really worth.

I don’t get the embarrassment over talking about income. It doesn’t say anything about you on a values basis, it’s quite literally just the contract you’ve made with your employer.

Edited

Completely agree

Thehamsterthatcametotea · 30/01/2024 18:39

Some people are just tossers regardless of their pay bracket.

ChedderGorgeous · 30/01/2024 18:39

Drudgeryofthissocalledlife · 30/01/2024 18:34

Is yaw, to be read as the satirisation of you are?

It's a reference to Harry Enfield's characters, Stanley and Pammy's catchphrase, as per pic.

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BitOutOfPractice · 30/01/2024 18:41

I hate that sketch. It’s still gets parroted at me sometimes as people believe I have this accent. In reality nobody has that accent.

anyhow, I don’t care his much anyone earns. Though when I see how much some people earn here I feel a bit shit. And I earn really well. Or so I thought 🤷‍♀️

Jovacknockowitch · 30/01/2024 18:44

TorroFerney · 30/01/2024 14:07

No it's not your "very point" - however it's a moot point as anyone could say anything on here and they may be making it up or not. I could say i earn £90k (as that is what i earn) and you can simply say no you don't, you don't talk about it in real life so that means you must earn 2 shillings and sixpence.

Oh goody, a pre-decimalisation thread!