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Anyone else had a pulmonary embolism? Hand hold needed.

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Allofaflutter · 30/01/2024 10:06

Currently in hospital after a double PE. I’m worried so much it will happen again. Drs aren’t telling me much and I’m terrified it will happen again. Anyone completely recovered and never had one again? They kept saying how rare double PE was and how serious it is. I was hours from death they said. I’m just scared I’m not going to recover again. They have stopped my hrt and I’m been ill with this awful virus thing since NYE and they are saying it could be one or the other of both as reasons or just random.

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Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 12:08

Ahh that makes sense. So is that under haematology then ?

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endofthelinefinally · 01/02/2024 12:09

Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 12:08

Ahh that makes sense. So is that under haematology then ?

Yes, it is a branch of the haematology service. They will follow up with you and arrange the review as you get near the end of the treatment.

CormorantStrikesBack · 01/02/2024 12:12

endofthelinefinally · 01/02/2024 12:05

You must take them exactly on time and with food. Hopefully they told you that.

Dd hasn’t been told that and she’s been on them a year, don’t think she knows.

Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 12:13

I think I’m having panic attacks too.

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Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 12:13

Or I suppose it could be symptoms still.

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endofthelinefinally · 01/02/2024 12:16

With regard to the haematology review this includes a risk assessment. DVTs and PEs are classified as provoked or unprovoked depending on whether a cause can be identified and what it was. The decision regarding short or long term treatment is based on all the information gathered from this assessment. It is complex and detailed and this is why some people stop the anticoagulants and others continue. Sometimes further testing is done to look for clotting disorders. These tests cannot be done while you are on the anticoagulants, so they have to wait till the initial course of treatment is finished.

endofthelinefinally · 01/02/2024 12:17

CormorantStrikesBack · 01/02/2024 12:12

Dd hasn’t been told that and she’s been on them a year, don’t think she knows.

Only with Rivaroxaban. It will definitely be in the patient info leaflet in the box. Apixaban is different. Warfarin different again.

embolismquestions · 01/02/2024 12:18

Thanks for this thread OP - had more information on here than I've had since it was diagnosed!

I had a CT and only told I had a big clot on lung - I am worried they didn't scan legs or head and I might have more. No heart scan. Just given Apixaban and sent home alone. No advice on how to look after myself other than just take the pills. I have a call for mid Feb from Thrombosis team but what are they going to check via the phone? I was expecting an actual blood test at least!

The GP is actually right next to the walk in and I'm tempted to go back there as they diagnosed the clot a week before I managed to get the CT scan. My heart is racing atm but it feels like a panic attack and my right foot is tingling.

CormorantStrikesBack · 01/02/2024 12:22

endofthelinefinally · 01/02/2024 12:17

Only with Rivaroxaban. It will definitely be in the patient info leaflet in the box. Apixaban is different. Warfarin different again.

She’s on rivoxiban

SerafinasGoose · 01/02/2024 12:23

Just rereading this thread is a difficult exercise for me - I don't think I'd realised either the cumulative effects of all that stress and the sense that I've had three very narrow escapes: I might have broken my neck, not my spine, or lost my mobility entirely, or died from those clots. I had previously diagnosed cPTSD, successfully treated, but am now going to seek a further evaluation as I do think it likely I've been retraumatised.

OP, do seek counselling and help if you need it. As a result of your thread I'm going to, and I can't thank you enough for this.

endofthelinefinally · 01/02/2024 12:25

CormorantStrikesBack · 01/02/2024 12:22

She’s on rivoxiban

Tell her to read the patient information leaflet. The window for effectiveness is 2 hours, hence the need to take at the same time to keep the blood level stable, and a small amount of food is required with the tablets to ensure they work properly.

MrsAvocet · 01/02/2024 12:27

Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 11:46

That’s how I feel, abandoned. I was dying Sunday, but now I’m on my own?

I just wanted to say that this is a very common feeling after a hospital admission and you are not alone in feeling this way.
I could write pages about my discharge from hospital after a long admission when I had multiple injuries in a car crash 5 years ago but I won't bore you with the details. But I can certainly relate to those fears and feelings of abandonment. Being sick in hospital is bad enough but you do feel you have that safety net of having people around you and being under observation, then wham, you're back to "normal" - except you're not.
I had PTSD after the accident but in therapy I realised that whilst the impact of the actually accident was of course significant, I was at least as badly traumatised by the events that followed, including my hasty discharge from hospiral in the middle of the night. I had EMDR therapy which to be honest I thought sounded like a load of nonsense when it was suggested to me but it did work. It's very early days for you yet but it's something that might help you in the future.
Be kind to yourself. Don't put pressure on yourself to do too much too soon and dont let anyone else do it to you either. And don't be afraid to get professional help if you feel you need it.

CormorantStrikesBack · 01/02/2024 12:29

endofthelinefinally · 01/02/2024 12:25

Tell her to read the patient information leaflet. The window for effectiveness is 2 hours, hence the need to take at the same time to keep the blood level stable, and a small amount of food is required with the tablets to ensure they work properly.

Will do, it’s so hard with her being an adult and trusting her to sort stuff out. She was so mentally affected by it all she actually moved out a few weeks after her diagnosis and refused to tell us where she’d gone or really communicate with us. Which was tough, it wasn’t like we’d had an argument. She had a total breakdown and I’d say it very much changed her as a person.

Bramshott · 01/02/2024 12:29

Really sorry to read this OP. I had a big DVT in my groin 20 years ago and I well remember the feeling of being told "this is really serious, and could kill you, now go home with these injections". I think TBH if it was going to kill you it would have done it by now (I mean that in a helpful way) - the clots you have are stable, and the treatment will stop you developing more.

I found the Thrombosis Charity a really useful resource for information: https://thrombosisuk.org/ They have a page about the psychological effects of VTE and what they call "post-thrombotic panic syndrome"

Thrombosis UK | The Thrombosis Charity wishes to increase awareness of thrombosis among the public and health professionals and to raise research funds to improve patient care. Helping people who suffer from VTE, DVT, PE and clots.

Thrombosis UK, Formerly Lifeblood: The Thrombosis Charity has a mission to provide support to all those living with and affected by thrombosis be it VTE, DVT, PE, clots. To help facilitate this, The Thrombosis UK website seeks to provide a wealth of in...

https://thrombosisuk.org

Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 12:30

I’m glad my thread is helping others too. I do feel traumatised.

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CormorantStrikesBack · 01/02/2024 12:31

Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 12:13

I think I’m having panic attacks too.

Try and make sure your breathing is steady and try and distract yourself with something. I would say if it’s symptoms they will continue even if you do try and think of something else.

Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 12:34

I’m also worried that I shouldn’t be on my antidepressants. Just looked up on bnf that we use at work and it’s a red serious interaction.

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Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 12:37

I feel like I’m falling apart.

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endofthelinefinally · 01/02/2024 12:37

CormorantStrikesBack · 01/02/2024 12:29

Will do, it’s so hard with her being an adult and trusting her to sort stuff out. She was so mentally affected by it all she actually moved out a few weeks after her diagnosis and refused to tell us where she’d gone or really communicate with us. Which was tough, it wasn’t like we’d had an argument. She had a total breakdown and I’d say it very much changed her as a person.

I am so, so sorry. That is just awful for both of you. Flowers

CormorantStrikesBack · 01/02/2024 12:38

endofthelinefinally · 01/02/2024 12:37

I am so, so sorry. That is just awful for both of you. Flowers

Thank you, she is actually back home now.

Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 12:40

I’m glad she’s home.

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endofthelinefinally · 01/02/2024 12:46

Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 12:34

I’m also worried that I shouldn’t be on my antidepressants. Just looked up on bnf that we use at work and it’s a red serious interaction.

Which AD is it? (If you don't mind me asking. You don't have to say. You could ring your local pharmacist and ask them to check for you).

CormorantStrikesBack · 01/02/2024 12:51

There is a fb group called pulmonary embolism support group which is good.

Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 13:08

Venlafaxine

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Allofaflutter · 01/02/2024 13:09

I’ll join thanks. I feel so alone.

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