DS partner extremist views - how to handle

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Getting more than a bit fed up with DSs partner ranting about various pro anarchist and similar subjects - any kind of political nuance is accepting global injustice, every conflict is goodies and baddies and no middle ground, frankly at times dehumanising those disagreed with, we should abandon Israel to their deserved fate, etc etc.

I'm broadly progressive, but this kind of thing brings to mind Pol Pot or the Cultural Revolution. This person is in their 30s ffs not a bloody student. DS roughly like me, moderate Labour type, just rolls his eyes, but partner appears to think I'm a suitable alternative audience bc ILs are Tories and just shout back. Can't really say just knock it off, however tempted, guests should be treated politely etc.

Any ideas, Aibu even to engage in good faith debate? Or just change the subject?

Offer a tin foil hat.

Now that would be rude

Debate back. But remember it’s a debate not an argument.

My dad had a very clear rule. No conversations about politics or religion allowed in his house, no exceptions. He told anyone attempting either straight out. Draconian maybe but there are days when I would like to have the courage to say similar.

Patronise, patronise, patronise. Smile indulgently, say, "yes Dave, that sounds lovely - tell me, who will be working in the sewers when this happens?"

If he is antisemitic, quite honestly I would tell him to feck the feck off. I don't host bigots in my home.

Not anti semitic, anti what State of Israel is doing. So am I but I try to understand why they're so afraid/ aggressive. DS partner just thinks they are a colonial project committing genocide, end of.

Just dont engage with them. You don’t need to. I never debate politics with friends and family, as it always spirals into arguments, as we have different views. If they start ranting, just smile politely and change topic. They’ll get the message eventually.

My FIL (right wing) is often determined to argue with my DH (left wing) and even tries to turn conversations about personal, financial or emotional issues into a political diatribe. My DH now refuses to engage. He will firmly say "i'm not getting into this with you" and walk away from it.

Just tell them to give it a rest. They're being rude by ranting on at you without checking you want to be engaged in the conversation, so be a bit rude back!

I'd just keep leaving the room

I wouldn’t enter a debate, it just feeds it. I’d change the subject or make excuses and leave the room.

You can say knock it off.

Something along the lines of - you find the constant diatribe at odds with the peaceful enjoyment of your home (joking).

Just tell DS to ask them to not bring up politics as it's making you uncomfortable in your own home. His visitor, his problem.

Ask them very pointedly exactly what they are doing to support the causes they champion. What action are they taking because talking at others is just an attempt to dominate.

Ranting virtue signalling to a captive audience is pure fucking narcissism.

Doesn't sound like you've attempted to listen to them at all.

Why should she Subject herself to this drivel.

Refer back to peaceful enjoyment of own home.

I have friends who are definitely right and quite bigoted. I just ignore,correct them or just change the subject!

Ask questions.
Ie do you see this subject as black and white or are there ways you see both sides having valid points.

Polite guests don't bring up politics.

Mmm. Dyou know, I do think about this stuff a lot but sometimes I need to give it a break -it can be a bit overwhelming, like watching too much news. Tell me - what have you two been cooking/watching/ reading lately?

I wouldnt be discussing it at all or engaging, who wants to be railed at and ranted to in their own home

Presumably your son also feels somewhat the same, otherwise whats the attraction so not sure why you say he's rolling his eyes

Its boring and immature when its so poloarised

Plus Ive found over the years, extreme left wing views and extreme right wing views are often one and the same, they go so far round on each side they meet each other

Not sure what this is about or what views pertaining to, but when it comes to bigots I've learned over the years to just shut down or ignore.
There's no reasoning or rational discussion with.

That was me with my FIL in my 30s (not the Israel topic) We really used to go at it. I cringe now remembering it! Now, I avoid discussing politics or current affairs, for the sake of peace. I think he secretly misses it and still tries to get a rise out of me. I just smile and nod. That shuts it down. I'd just leave the room everytime she starts. It'll soon stop. Don't hold it against her, some of us are still militant in our 30s. Some forever, but that's a different story.

Smile and nod with a "mmm".

Even more effective when you're busy doing something else like knitting, cooking or reading. Pick up a magazine if you have to. Leave the room if you have to ' "mmm. Oh is that the time, I'll go put the dinner on." "Mmm. Oh I know what I meant to show you, uncle dave sent this card from Peru.."!

She's looking for engagement or a rise. Be a bland agreeable wallflower, she'll soon get bored.

We have a "No Politics in the Pub" rule....which has been expanded to mean that I do not discuss politics with any of my right wing family, and they with me. I would adopt the PP's fathers approach of saying "No, no politics in my house! We all have our own views and I do not want them voiced in my home. More tea anyone?"

@PyongyangKipperbang *yeah, I agree with this
that I do not discuss politics with any of my right wing family, and they with me. I would adopt the PP's fathers approach of saying "No, no politics in my house! We all have our own views and I do not want them voiced in my home. More tea anyone?"
More tea anyone,? Or "weather's warmed up a bit since past couple of days don't you think?"

Don't know why these topics keep on coming up but if they do it just debate people

'They are here taking our jobs'
'Who is?, what is your source?, can you give an example of this?, how do you actually know this?' the usual kind of questions

'Covid immunisation is filled with tracking devices'
'Where is it located, is it invisible?, what colour is it?, who is employed to track what qualifications do you need?'

The intelligent levels of this conspiracy theorists is not that high