DS partner extremist views - how to handle

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Getting more than a bit fed up with DSs partner ranting about various pro anarchist and similar subjects - any kind of political nuance is accepting global injustice, every conflict is goodies and baddies and no middle ground, frankly at times dehumanising those disagreed with, we should abandon Israel to their deserved fate, etc etc.

I'm broadly progressive, but this kind of thing brings to mind Pol Pot or the Cultural Revolution. This person is in their 30s ffs not a bloody student. DS roughly like me, moderate Labour type, just rolls his eyes, but partner appears to think I'm a suitable alternative audience bc ILs are Tories and just shout back. Can't really say just knock it off, however tempted, guests should be treated politely etc.

Any ideas, Aibu even to engage in good faith debate? Or just change the subject?

There is a guy who lives on my street who is prone to heated discussions about politics, where he will just blow up into verbal aggressive yelling. He' s completely unhinged. I once saw him talking at someone from the intercom of a block of flats about capitalism. The tennant would not let him in his flat as he had more sense and I found the irony of it amusing.

But the are?
You sound very apathetic and complacent. So it's hard to tell if they are actually a bit if a nightmare or they just think you don't give a shit.

While I probably agree with them on Israel, I think there's appropriate ways to engage in discussion and tbh if I felt somone didn't care I'd just leave it and judge them. But not everyone can do this, I've got some relatives like this and it is exhausting. But equally if you're all eyerolling about a genocide I think that is equally exhausting.

What are the other things they talk about? Are they coming at the Israeli think from a right wing perspective? That's an important distinction I think.

“New house rule, reviving old fashioned rule. Politics, religion and money are not suitable subjects for polite conversation.”

If they are impolite and and break the rule you can be impolite and tell them to shut the fuck up

So the definition of anti semetic then?

I wouldn’t welcome anyone with such disgusting views in my home.

He is in his 30s, he is not a child who needs to be told off for having an opinion that differs from their parents.

Leave him to it, avoid subjects that will cause unnecessary arguments. What you or he thinks doesn't matter in the big picture.

Sorry but I’m not getting drawn into a debate with a racist. You think Jews first claim to the land was when the U.K. gave it to them? Your ignorance isn’t worth responding to. That’s not to say I support Netanyahu or the politics but what you are claiming is nothing to do with politics and just pure hatred of Israel as a concept. Anyone who thinks Israel is colonialism is supporting anti semitism. The ICJ literally just confirmed Israel has the right to defend itself from Hamas. It isn’t for you or I to determine whether that endeavour has been proportionate at every turn. It will take the court years to analyse the evidence but you’re so confident to take a punt yourself now? Based on what, tik tok and what your racist uncle says in the pub!?

i couldn’t follow your last point because it was incoherent but I think you were trying to say Stalin was a Jewish person, look at how evil Jewish people are? Something like that?

i am reporting you.

How is being ‘anti what the state of Israel is doing’ anti- Semitic? I read that as they are any Israeli government?

But I digress. OP - just be clear and firm ‘ I don’t want to discuss this- we have very different views, so let’s leave it’. And just say it every time.

New house rule - anyone talking shit politics is on hoover duty/washing the dishes/ ironing.

Have it cross stitched and hang it in the kitchen if you have to.

Are you illustrating how annoying it is when everybody is taking about something and someone is airing their unwanted views?

How old are they, how does it impact your DS. Are they just goading or do you think there is a deep issue about their functioning? All of this would make a difference to how I dealt with this.

I assume OP's DS's partner has arrived on the thread.

There is whole board dedicated to this.

Why don't you kindly retire there?

I agree with earlier advise.
Smile and nod. Then change the subject/leave the room/get back to what you were doing.
Ignore her.

Back to the point:

OP when your sons partner starts talking about the illuminati or whatever, very gently just interrupt with 'can I just stop you there...'.

Then walk off.

Eventually he'll take the hint.

Bloody hell, op uses the Israel/Gaza conflict as an example and now the thread is full of people ranting about that rather than advise the op on the issue. Just calm down and go off and start your own post!

Anyway op I would just go down the route of no politics and hope that’s a polite enough warning that you don’t want to engage.

Ranting on about political topics when you're in someone else's house is just plain rude.

I'd change the topic randomly, or say that you want to discuss something else. If they then start about people not discussing these important topics, you could ask them what they are doing about it.

@soupfiend

No they definitely are one and the same! This is the irony.

She sounds like a total bore op and I would say brightly one day " I wonder, usually people stay away from politics and the news is very depressing at the moment, shall we try and stay away from emotive subjects... So"

No politics, religion or money at table in this house. We are all adults and are old enough to have made up our minds thankfully.