To think most people have no idea how little HLTAs/Teaching Assistants earn?

[LorlieS]

Anybody want to hazard a guess at the average monthly income of a ft HLTA/TA?

It really is quite shocking!

If employed by the LA, TA’s should get 4 weeks paid statutory holidays, and bank holidays same as all other council employees, including teachers. The other 9 weeks, for both teachers and TA’s are unpaid. The wage of TA’s absolutely does not allow for this massive gap in earnings. It’s an utter disgrace.

I reckon it's about £11 or £12ph maybe 5 hrs a day, Mon to Fri term time only, so 39 weeks a year.
Maybe 12k a year.?

A lot of job vacancies will be advertised as £x FTE which is what the salary would be based on full time working.

If you work out the hourly rate of £22k (assuming that full time would be 40 hours, 52 weeks per year) it equates to an hourly rate of £10.57.

For a 30 hour working week (8:30-3:30 minus an hour for lunch) for 38 weeks of the year is £12,049, which is similar to what the OP stated

My hourly rate is £14.91. FTE is £28770 I get £22531 pro rata. Tas get paid more than 38 weeks a year

YABU- most people know TA is crap pay.

Most women do it because it fits in with kids.

I am fully aware it's classed as a part time job, and I DON'T expect to get paid for all 12 weeks, however, many people think we DO GET PAID FOR ALL THE SCHOOL HOLIDAYS.

TAs are mostly paid for 44.5 weeks a year and most get half an hour lunch, not an hour. Well certainly in my school. 32.5 hours is also standard in my school.

I had no idea, but the wage doesn’t surprise me. The thing is, there is such a huge variation in quality and experience in TAs. We have 4 TAs at our school (small 3 class village primary), and only one of them has any qualifications at all. The other 3 are parents, who I know failed their GCSEs and left school afterwards. One seems to care about the work she does and has o’levels and a’levels, the other three spend their time on their phones or actively avoiding work. They gossip about children and are incredibly unprofessional. One of them is a 1:1 SEN TA and they are the worst of the lot of them, it’s shocking. They took the jobs purely because their kids are at the school and they can walk them in, start work at 9am and leave at 3:30pm and take their kids home. That isn’t unusual, lots of friends report a similar quality of TAs within their children's primary schools. We had one fantastic HLTA and the new academy got rid of her, because she made waves by caring about the SEN children and encouraging children into music and sports, which made the others look bad.

I wish we had TAs like the OP at our school but sadly I have only ever encountered one that good.

Why assume full time is 40 hours a week? The poster who put up a photo of a pay slip clearly shows full time in her LA is based on 37 hours a week. One needs to pin this down before working out the hourly rate.

Fair enough, I didn’t take into account the annual leave. Also I have family members who work in schools for 30 hours per week which is what I was basing the calculation from.

Even if the ‘full time’ hours were 37, and hypothetical TA worked 32.5 hours per week and was paid 44.5 weeks per year, it would be around £16.5k, rather than the £22k that the quoted post was claiming to be a common TA salary

Remember it is worked out pro rata so they don’t earn that figure - think they work 38 weeks of the year

This is a good job advert example

For the amount a TA/LSA/HLTA is expected to do it should be doubled!

And..... the extras lifeguarding, driving the minibus, first aider....... no. These are all jobs in there own right!

I quoted £22500 as that’s what I am on. I didn’t say it was common. I am also a ta3 so on the higher end of tas

I think the 22k was either that of a SEN tA as they tend to earn more or was the FTE. I earn 18k and my FTE is around 23k. We have had 2 years of good pay rises and my pay has risen significantly in that time.

I was referencing rainbowzebrawarrior

When I worked as a TA, I also worked as a Midday Meals Supervisor (dinner helper as we used to call them when I was little!) in another school nearby.

So, I would do 8:45 till 12 at one school, then 12:10 till the end of lunch. I had 10 minutes to eat my lunch (school dinners) then I'd race back to the first school for the afternoon.

Then, one week on, one week off, I also worked as a nanny in the evenings.

I don't recommend it, it was exhausting!

£21k

@AnonAnom940 That's not take-home pay!!!!

Doesn’t actually state it’s pro- rata though either…..

@Tulipvase Most don't - they want to get applicants and the pay in reality is so bad they know it will be an issue!!

See the 'simple sum' para here...

My LA advertise it as being pro rata. Would be pretty low if the advertised pay is the FTE. I do 32.5 hours and my FTE is 23k plus.

@Tulipvase So realistically, how much do you come out with per month?

Genuine question
Are parents not allowed to go and support anymore obviously I understand the safeguarding aspect but years ago parents used to volunteer to listen to children read and with crafts.
When I was young (hundreds of years ago) friday afternoon was called golden time each classroom had a different theme and you could choose which to do I learnt to knit and crochet from someone's nana.