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To think most people have no idea how little HLTAs/Teaching Assistants earn?

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LorlieS · 25/01/2024 22:58

Anybody want to hazard a guess at the average monthly income of a ft HLTA/TA?

It really is quite shocking!

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Nbo · 28/01/2024 14:36

£14.91 x 32.5 hours a week=£484.57 x 46.49 weeks a year = £22,527 a year

LorlieS · 28/01/2024 14:36

@Lorralorr Because TAs in the main are only employed school hours.

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LorlieS · 28/01/2024 14:40

@SquirrelHash But the issue comes when some of the families you work with are by their very nature challenging. You probably wouldn't believe some of the things we all have a duty to report as safeguarding, even in primary. Not all parents understand nor appreciate the need for professional distancing.

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LorlieS · 28/01/2024 14:41

@Nbo And this proves my original point.
So many people have no idea how little support staff are paid!

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SquirrelHash · 28/01/2024 14:47

LorlieS · 28/01/2024 14:40

@SquirrelHash But the issue comes when some of the families you work with are by their very nature challenging. You probably wouldn't believe some of the things we all have a duty to report as safeguarding, even in primary. Not all parents understand nor appreciate the need for professional distancing.

I literally work in a school, so I absolutely do

SquirrelHash · 28/01/2024 14:49

LorlieS · 28/01/2024 14:41

@Nbo And this proves my original point.
So many people have no idea how little support staff are paid!

We do, but most are pro rata, and this calculation is not.

Nbo · 28/01/2024 14:52

That is my pro rata wage

To think most people have no idea how little HLTAs/Teaching Assistants earn?
SquirrelHash · 28/01/2024 15:02

Nbo that's great but most LSAs do not work those weeks - that's nearly as much as a standard annual leave entitlement. Many have 13 weeks off a year, which is pro-rated accordingly, making their hourly rate much lower.

Nbo · 28/01/2024 15:07

I get 39 weeks paid that I am in work and the 7.49 is holiday pay including an extra week pay I got for working however many years service. It is pro rated and every single person working in a school is entitled to 5.6 weeks paid holiday a year

Nbo · 28/01/2024 15:09

Every single person who
works on a permanent based contract should be getting a minimum of 44.6 paid weeks a year regardless of only working 39 weeks

cassgate · 28/01/2024 15:14

The FTE of my level 3 salary is £23893. I work 32.5 hrs a week and get paid for 45 weeks a year. Pro rata salary therefore £18122 Pa. FTE for level 4 HLTA is only £25119 so pro rata £19041.

Tulipvase · 28/01/2024 15:15

Nbo · 28/01/2024 15:09

Every single person who
works on a permanent based contract should be getting a minimum of 44.6 paid weeks a year regardless of only working 39 weeks

Quite.

I’m not sure why this seems so difficult for people to grasp. Especially people who say they work in a school.

Nbo · 28/01/2024 15:18

I don’t understand it either! Regardless of it being a school it’s still a legal requirement for every employee to have 5.6 weeks holiday a year! 🤯

whatsappdoc · 28/01/2024 15:28

It's great that some TAs on here are on 30+ hours a week, that makes a difference. Some schools I've worked in, the 'full time' hours were 25. (9 -3 with an hour for lunch). Obviously actual hours were more but that goes without saying. 🤨

whatsappdoc · 28/01/2024 15:30

Nbo · 28/01/2024 15:18

I don’t understand it either! Regardless of it being a school it’s still a legal requirement for every employee to have 5.6 weeks holiday a year! 🤯

But that would be for 52 weeks a year? So 39 weeks would be a percentage of that?

Nbo · 28/01/2024 15:31

https://www.acas.org.uk/checking-holiday-entitlement
Shift, term-time and zero-hours workers with ongoing contractsYou must still get 5.6 weeks' paid holiday as a minimum if you work irregular hours with an ongoing employment contract. This can include:

  • shift work, for example working a shift pattern of 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off
  • term-time work, for example working 39 weeks a year during school term-time but being employed for the whole year
  • zero-hours contracts, for example working some weeks but having the contract remain in place in the weeks where no work is carried out
This type of work is sometimes called part-year work. Your holiday entitlement should not be affected by how many weeks you actually work in a year. This is because the employment contract is in place for the whole year.
To think most people have no idea how little HLTAs/Teaching Assistants earn?
whatsappdoc · 28/01/2024 15:35

Interesting @Nbo.

Klm1234 · 28/01/2024 15:39

There is definitely a National pay scale for school support staff

Wouldyouguess · 28/01/2024 15:40

Boomboom22 · 25/01/2024 23:06

They do get holiday pay. The calculations are term time plus legal holidays divided by 12.
Because the job is part time usually 8.30 to 3.30 max if that and 38 to 40 weeks at minimum wage I'd say between 800 and 1000 a month max.
Obviously science techs will be on a bit more, maybe up to 8k more.

Sadly most support staff these days is agency and they get a sweet f* all.

Tulipvase · 28/01/2024 15:40

Klm1234 · 28/01/2024 15:39

There is definitely a National pay scale for school support staff

But each LA can choose which grade to pay support staff on. There is huge variation in salaries on this thread alone.

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Yes, the FTE salary of our HLTAs is very nearly 30k at the top of the grade but the salary is of course pro-rata.