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School demanding packed meals for 18 hr bus trip

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Snoopmummy · 19/01/2024 17:09

DC is off on a school trip involving an 18 hour coach journey. School is demanding we drop children off in the evening having fed them (fine), equipped with nut free snacks (makes sense). We have also been asked to provide TWO meals: a packed breakfast and a packed lunch.

That means breakfast will be consumed 13 hours after they set off and lunch will be something like 17 hours later. Is there any food that can safely last for that length of time in an insulated bag or flask? DC does not like dried fruit or cereal bars.

AIBU to consider asking for the risk assessment over this and suggesting we equip them with money to get food on the way as they will need to stop anyway?!

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forjustnow · 19/01/2024 18:28

You are both unreasonable and bonkers.

They aren’t “demanding” they are saying you’ll need to provide food for the journey.

A risk assessment for packed lunches? That would require a different assessment for all the food options.

Your suggestion of stopping en route would need more of a risk assessment than having some packed lunches.

Parents like you put an end to trips.

Savedpassword · 19/01/2024 18:28

Individually wrapped packs of crackers.
Tub of jam
Brioche rolls.
Individual soreen bars.
Fruit winders.
Raisins.
Crisps
Biscuits.
Grapes
Banana
Oranges
Apple
Breadsticks
Ricecakes

DC had to take enough food in a rucksack for a 3 night/4 day Duke of Ed hike. The list is made up of some of the stuff they had for breakfast/lunch There was more but they survived 😉

EvergreenHouse · 19/01/2024 18:28

Snoopmummy · 19/01/2024 18:21

I raise this as another scientist parent who runs a food company has pointed out it’s difficult to guarantee the safety of food - particularly dairy - after more than a few hours even in an insulated lunch bag and particularly on a stuffy coach!

I have not yet written to ask about any paperwork. But as someone who used to be involved in education I can assure you we conducted risk assessments for every trip.

Cheese sandwiches would not technically be safe after 17 hours surely?

Processed croissants have practically zero nutritional content.

If it was a few hours, no problem. It’s not a DofE trip in the fresh outdoors. It’s on a stuffy coach.

Thank you for the lunch ideas though.

I think you need to stop being rigid about meal times for this trip. If they eat snacks or breakfast/type food at lunch on this one occasion it really does not matter. It also does not matter if it’s nutritious. It does not matter if it is eaten on a stuffy coach.

None of this matters. I think you need to get some perspective on this issue.

Heather37231 · 19/01/2024 18:29

Wow, your DC never gets to eat anything that has “zero nutritional content”? must be a barrel of laughs in your house.

mindutopia · 19/01/2024 18:29

We have this for our French residential trip. Though it’s dinner and breakfast. We’re sending sandwich, crisps, cereal bar, fruit and drink, then pastry, fruit and drink for breakfast. Obviously two non-perishable meals wouldn’t be too different, but it’d be more like babybel on a roll or peanut butter and jam.

I do sort of wonder what they’ll do on the way back, but that the accommodation who is providing all their other packed lunches will send them with something. And then a teacher can buy a few packets of croissants from a supermarket somewhere.

forjustnow · 19/01/2024 18:29

Alwaysalwayscold · 19/01/2024 18:21

I think you'd better keep them at home OP. It's just too risky sending your poor darlings out there to starve 💔 god bless all those other kids, I hope they make it there alive.

😂

Stompythedinosaur · 19/01/2024 18:30

It seems fine to me. Brioche or croissant for breakfast plus a peanut butter sandwich, crisps and fruit for lunch.

Snooks1971 · 19/01/2024 18:30

Surely for any school trip the lunch boxes are opened and contents consumed before they’re even out of the car park?

BellaVita · 19/01/2024 18:30

It will be fine. I have done it for both of mine.

Fruit, cereal bars, pain au chocolate, bagels with cheese, croissants, crisps.

couiza · 19/01/2024 18:31

Ask DC. Give them what they ask for as long as it's not perishable over the 18 hours. What is the problem here?

And while it's kind of posters to give suggestions, honestly if Mum hasn't thought of any of them already, well I just roll my eyes! And a risk assessment?? WTAF. Really am gobsmacked by the thought.

Hats off to the teachers. They deserve medals for doing the trip, and surviving 2 x 18 hour bus trips not to mention the trip itself! DC will be fine.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 19/01/2024 18:32

NettleTea · 19/01/2024 18:02

Oh God OP/ Youd better hope your child doesnt progress to Gold DoE - where they had to take with them food for 4 days wild in the lake district, plus extra for travel there and back from Sussex - breakfast, lunch, dinner, (of which only dinner was those 'trek' style freeze dried meals) PLUS snacks, PLUS water bottles, and when they were wild camping they had to get water from streams and sterilise it. And they had to dig a hole to poo in.

They did get to stop at McDonalds on the way home though

If it's even remotely like the Bronze (as mine weren't the superduper special kids, they just wanted to do something that sounded like fun), the tubs of mini flapjacks and krispie cakes from Tesco's did a lot of heavy lifting for at least the first day...

Anothernewname123 · 19/01/2024 18:32

I wonder if the staff will be eating 17 hour old sandwiches or whether they'll be permitted to buy something fresher?

ErrolTheDragon · 19/01/2024 18:32

And again, obviously not the peanut butter sandwiches since they've specifically been told not to take nutty snacks hopefully everyone has the nous to extend that to the breakfast and lunch.

rainbowunicorn · 19/01/2024 18:33

Snoopmummy · 19/01/2024 18:21

I raise this as another scientist parent who runs a food company has pointed out it’s difficult to guarantee the safety of food - particularly dairy - after more than a few hours even in an insulated lunch bag and particularly on a stuffy coach!

I have not yet written to ask about any paperwork. But as someone who used to be involved in education I can assure you we conducted risk assessments for every trip.

Cheese sandwiches would not technically be safe after 17 hours surely?

Processed croissants have practically zero nutritional content.

If it was a few hours, no problem. It’s not a DofE trip in the fresh outdoors. It’s on a stuffy coach.

Thank you for the lunch ideas though.

Oh stop it! Why does it matter if a croissant is not great nutritionally, its not like that is all they will eat every meal for a month. Do you never have a coffee and croissant or pastry for breakfast?

Rebbecca101 · 19/01/2024 18:34

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OnceUponATimeInChristmasTime · 19/01/2024 18:35

Quite a few people book coach trips for themselves and not all opt to use service stations for their food. Often they'll pack food for themselves.
I genuinely don't get the problem.
Pack a few sandwiches/croissants, some fruit, some pain au chocolat type things or brioche. You could use an ice pack thing or freeze a bottle of water which will double up as a drink once defrosted. Your child will be fine.

rainbowunicorn · 19/01/2024 18:35

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 19/01/2024 18:35

Anothernewname123 · 19/01/2024 18:32

I wonder if the staff will be eating 17 hour old sandwiches or whether they'll be permitted to buy something fresher?

'Hey kids, just stay on the coach by yourselves at the side of the road whilst we staff nip off to get a three course meal. It'll be fine, honestly, just so long as nobody starts fighting, gets out to walk 5kn in search of a MccyDs or brings out a bottle of vodka and some edibles whilst we're fulfilling our epicurean needs, OK?'.

They'll be lucky to get enough time to have a flaccid sandwich.

Hazil · 19/01/2024 18:36

Lunch: Plastic container or bento box containing cold pasta with olive oil / pesto. Separate container of cheese and separate container with salad bits. Store with a ice pack if weather warm. If you have a hungry child, supply double.

Breakfast: Pack of mini pancakes and a separate pack of brioche / croissants. Lots of fruit. Maybe a cheese roll.

I think they’re wise not relying on finding appropriate food for that number of people on the road. They’ll journey much faster too.

I don’t see the problem, I’d much rather Dc had healthy food from home than random junk bouhht on the road. But then I’ve been on a coach trip with someone who had food poisoning 😬

SmilingMoon · 19/01/2024 18:36

Cheese is absolutely fine outside the fridge for a while. It's only refrigerated to preserve it long-term.

Hollyhead · 19/01/2024 18:36

Wow you are being totally extra. 😂 of course a sandwich will be ok with an ice pack for a while, just don’t do chicken or fish.

Snoopmummy · 19/01/2024 18:37

DS is 9 so I guess I’m being precious and overly protective. (Peanut butter will be banned due to allergies of other children).

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LuckySantangelo35 · 19/01/2024 18:37

Risk assessment

lol

Redwineislife · 19/01/2024 18:37

This is what takes our teachers attention away from the important things, responding to ridiculous queries like this from parents 🙄

Sasqwatch · 19/01/2024 18:38

‘Demanding’ and ‘risk assessment’ give over 🙄