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School demanding packed meals for 18 hr bus trip

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Snoopmummy · 19/01/2024 17:09

DC is off on a school trip involving an 18 hour coach journey. School is demanding we drop children off in the evening having fed them (fine), equipped with nut free snacks (makes sense). We have also been asked to provide TWO meals: a packed breakfast and a packed lunch.

That means breakfast will be consumed 13 hours after they set off and lunch will be something like 17 hours later. Is there any food that can safely last for that length of time in an insulated bag or flask? DC does not like dried fruit or cereal bars.

AIBU to consider asking for the risk assessment over this and suggesting we equip them with money to get food on the way as they will need to stop anyway?!

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JudgeJ · 20/01/2024 22:18

GothConversionTherapy · 20/01/2024 14:11

I think the OP just doesn't want him to go so is throwing up barriers. Hell be fine though and I'm sure will have a great time being a little independent.

In years to come I hope he never wants to leave home, she'll be going with him!

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/01/2024 22:21

Anothernewname123 · 20/01/2024 21:59

OP, have you asked what the teachers will be bringing? Might give you some more ideas if you kid won't (not unreasonably) eat sweaty cheese. Wink

The teachers will be taking it in turns to have a fry-up while the kids pee and buy more crisps.

I have never done this, obvs.

WandaWonder · 20/01/2024 22:26

Risk assessment? They are children not precious petals

I would through and ice brick maybe or send packaged stuff, they are not going to starve

bobomomo · 20/01/2024 22:27

My only thought is you can't take dairy or meat into the eu these days! Jane sandwiches though would be fine

ToffeeCrumble · 20/01/2024 22:28

Why do you keep using the word "demand" instead of "ask" eg. "School is demanding we drop children off in the evening having fed them"
Is it to try and make the school sound unreasonable?

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/01/2024 22:28

bobomomo · 20/01/2024 22:27

My only thought is you can't take dairy or meat into the eu these days! Jane sandwiches though would be fine

This has been mentioned and then mocked by other posters. If I were the OP, I'd be asking the school about this - the last thing the staff on the trip need is an over-zealous customs official who got out of bed the wrong side that morning.

bobomomo · 20/01/2024 22:30

@DonnaBanana

My dd begs to differ, she's just travelled that to go skiing, saved a lot over flying plus they have transport once there.

I drove to Italy last year ... I love long distance road trips

Mocara · 20/01/2024 22:30

Do every one on the trip a favour (except your poor child of coarse )and keep your child at home ! It must be utterly exhausting policing life as you do .

JudgeJ · 20/01/2024 22:31

NewName24 · 20/01/2024 21:45

But releasing a coach load of 9yr olds into any service station to go off and choose lunch would be a risk assessment all on it's own.
Doing that when they are in a foreign country, with different language and different money, would be a ludicrous suggestion. Plus of course adding 90mins on to their journey.

Especially as many of the 9 year olds, especially this one, will have never bought themselves food in a cafe, especially a foreign service station with the problems of language and money. Does the risk assessment include staff being at the counter and till to supervise each child's purchase, quantifying nutritional value?

JudgeJ · 20/01/2024 22:34

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/01/2024 22:21

The teachers will be taking it in turns to have a fry-up while the kids pee and buy more crisps.

I have never done this, obvs.

Don't the cafes in the European service stations sell alcohol, they certainly used to! Staff will be well stocked with their special bottles of 'water', the little cans of Fever Tree being wedged in the bottom of their cool bags!

JubileeJumps · 20/01/2024 22:36

Grapes… marmite sandwiches or jam. Croissant. Pots of jelly. Crisps. Make some cheese biscuits. Make some flapjacks. Fruit smoothies - like the ones you give babies (Ella’s kitchen) - just the plain fruit ones. Boxes of raisins. Crackers. Banana chips. Lots of water.

18 hours travelling is grim.

JudgeJ · 20/01/2024 22:38

Maddy70 · 20/01/2024 22:18

Post like these caused me to stop running school trips

At the return pickup I wonder how many parents will say thanks to the teachers who, hopefully, kept their children happy and safe? That was always an eye-opener, not usually the ones you expect.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 20/01/2024 22:53

JudgeJ · 20/01/2024 22:31

Especially as many of the 9 year olds, especially this one, will have never bought themselves food in a cafe, especially a foreign service station with the problems of language and money. Does the risk assessment include staff being at the counter and till to supervise each child's purchase, quantifying nutritional value?

AND at least one of them has a nut allergy.

Maybe the risk assessment had

Children purchasing food:

  1. Loss of money = unhappy parents,
  2. making inappropriate choices such as all Skittles = technicolor vomit on bus seating,
  3. being unable to read labelling in 3 different languages = killing Clementine Dooms-Patterson through the medium of Nutella.
sunglassesonthetable · 20/01/2024 23:05

" just equip them with money to buy food ..."

Honestly can you imagine the total chaos.

Snoopmummy · 20/01/2024 23:19

I’m usually very chilled - especially compared to the other tiger parents in the class! Now the EU dairy ban does pose a dilemma. DS is far from a Michelin grazer and the only types of sandwiches he will eat are cheese, ham or tuna. Latter two I won’t send obviously! Won’t touch yoghurt, Soreen, babybel cheese, Marmite. Will happily scoff a hot meal but won’t be sending that following the other good points raised. Can’t withdraw from trip as it’s not refundable and child wants to go. I had reservations about such a long coach trip given the eye watering cost of trip.

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NewName24 · 20/01/2024 23:30

DiscoBelle · 20/01/2024 21:56

The OP didn’t mention the children were 9 years old, I was explaining what happened when my son was in a similar situation. When they stopped at services they were still in the UK after travelling for almost 8 hours, food stop, pee stop then they continued.

She did, at 18.37 yesterday.

If you can't read all the thread (understandable), it isn't difficult to skim the OP's posts.

DiscoBelle · 20/01/2024 23:33

NewName24 · 20/01/2024 23:30

She did, at 18.37 yesterday.

If you can't read all the thread (understandable), it isn't difficult to skim the OP's posts.

I meant the opening post, not the original poster, my post was based on what was in that.

God knows why you’re so picky, chill out 🙄

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 20/01/2024 23:36

You can buy Army ration packs online or from some camping shops. No need to refrigerate or cook. Could also be bartered for goods / services once they arrive at the destination.

sunglassesonthetable · 20/01/2024 23:44

My kids have this sort of trip a few times with school. From 18 - 20 hrs.

Wild horses wouldn't drag me but they all loved it. Particularly the journeys. ( yep )

Well equipped with snacks/food ( of the type helpfully listed across this thread ) ear phones, pillows, phones ( at their own risk ) and all the rest, they horsed, chatted, slept, truffled and were generally in pig heaven with their mates, making their way across the continent.

Your son is a bit younger than mine were, but the school already sound sensible, not letting them loose to buy their own food. Be reassured by that.

ChrisPPancake · 20/01/2024 23:46

@Snoopmummy having escorted a party of school kids through the services I can totally understand why they're not wanting to do that! Also it's bad enough trying to get 3 dc to agree which concession to go to, never mind 30!

Freeze a ham sandwich. In an insulated lunch box with frozen juice box and frozen frube it'll be grand.

BaconSarny · 21/01/2024 00:20

Demanding or simply asking? Seems like a reasonable request; fruit, cakes, veggie sticks, crisps, pasta, sarnies will all keep pretty well in an insulated lunch bag. Give them cash as well just in case they can buy something hot on the way. Don’t overthink it; it uses way too much energy

SusieLawson · 21/01/2024 01:13

I thought there are strict health and safety rules for how long fresh food can be left out the fridge? Sounds strange that a school would go against health and safety rules. Only safe food would be unhealthy processed food, which shouldn't be what a school are requesting parents to provide.

sunglassesonthetable · 21/01/2024 01:29

I thought there are strict health and safety rules for how long fresh food can be left out the fridge? Sounds strange that a school would go against health and safety rules. Only safe food would be unhealthy processed food, which shouldn't be what a school are requesting parents to provide.

🤦‍♀️

CatNoBag · 21/01/2024 01:41

I think pretty much every school uses an agency for trips longer than a day, and presumably the agency gets a substantial discount on all parts of the journey because they make thousands of bookings + have insurance etc. It would cost the school much more to arrange themselves even without factoring in the time it would take to research it all.

As for the packed lunches, I’ve heard first hand experiences of school trips being held up in Dover for hours recently and the only food being available to buy was at a very overwhelmed Costa, so I’d send ALL the snacks you can to be in the safe side!

Pixiedusty · 21/01/2024 01:55

Whilst i share your initial reaction OP chances are there aren't many good food options they can buy on the way anyway. Maybe just pack them something with an icepack to make sure they won't go off?