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Lying boyfriend blames my reaction

303 replies

Blindasabatt · 08/01/2024 08:38

I found out accidentally that my partner had been lying to me about a number of things, some since we first met 3 years ago.

He told me he owned properties and about the tenants living in those properties. He talked about the mortgages rates going up and how he planned to sell them but it just wasn’t happening, as the market was bad.

Turns out it was all a lie and he owns no properties. Made it all up.

Then he went away on a trip abroad and told me it was a business trip. I had a feeling something wasn’t right I rang him when he landed and confronted him. He flew into a rage of how could I accuse him of that and not trust him. Sent me evidence pictures he was where he said he was. He refused to speak with me the entire time he was away (a week) other than messages telling me how annoyed he was at me for doubting him. Then when he came back we ‘worked through things’. He swore blind he was where he said he was and told me about his meetings and his friends he had seen whilst there. I was told I had trust issues and that I could call his friends to prove he was telling the truth. I asked him numerous times about the trip and he got annoyed at me each time.

I found out a year later that he was actually on a boys trip parting in another country entirely.

So I found out about all of this (and more) at the same time. My spidey senses were just screaming at me to look into it all. I was so enraged once I found out he was lying that I went through his things to find more evidence. I’m not proud of this, but at this point I don’t even know who this man is who is living with me.

I was furious and totally devastated to find out that the man I loved so deeply and who I was hoping to marry and spend my life with had lied to me like this.

I packed some of his stuff and threw it outside and sent him a text dumping him. He came over the next day and we talked it through, he denied the lies and tried to spin me a story. I asked him to stay and work it out. He said no that he was leaving as I kicked him out and ‘no one does that to him’ and that he can’t forgive me for that.

We did work things through over the course of 2 weeks and he kept coming back to the fact that I kicked him out being such an awful thing. He came clean on the lies (it took him over a week and he was still trying to deny it and show me false evidence of his lies).

Now we have moved forward, 6 months later, and he is fixated on the fact that I kicked him out. He doesn’t trust me anymore, he says he can’t rely on me after what I did. I admit, I could have handled things better, but I didn’t. I didn’t know who this person was anymore and was scared and disgusted.

He is now cold and distant and unaffectionate and I’m miserable. He says it all stems from me kicking him out like that.

I show him everyday that I want to be there for him, help him in every way possible, but he just says I don’t help, he doesn’t need my help and he can do it all himself and I’m dragging him down with my sadness.

Was my response unreasonable and do I deserve to be punished like this?

OP posts:
HideousKinky · 08/01/2024 10:07

I don't understand why you're still with this man.
You don't trust him an inch

RedHelenB · 08/01/2024 10:11

So you don't mind the continuing lies he told after all? Be honest, if you just want him no matter then down on your knees you go and ask him to carry on walking all over you. I'm sure he'll be delighted with that. Or else you can woman up, see him for the man he is and get rid. Choice is yours but no way will he change his character, he has no respect for you

Kingoftheroad · 08/01/2024 10:12

Pack his bags, throw them outside, change your locks asap. Don’t spend anymore time or energy on him

AfraidToRun · 08/01/2024 10:12

OP, reclaim your life and yourself. Kick him out and mean it. You'll never have to hear his lies and guilt trips again.

Who is going to put you first if not yourself?

mumsytoon · 08/01/2024 10:13

More fool you. This is on you. Why are you so desperate to constantly want 'to work through it'. He's proven to you many times that he is a liar, yet you still go in for more. Why? You can't complain about something that you have full knowledge of ??

Beastiesandthebeauty · 08/01/2024 10:15

I've put you're being unreasonable but not because of your reaction, you're being unreasonable to be back with him. End this like actually now!!

CandyLeBonBon · 08/01/2024 10:15

My ex did similar. He is a compulsive liar. I appreciate you're in his thrall but please save yourself the heartache and just end it.

Your sanity will Thank you.

Snowdogsmitten · 08/01/2024 10:19

How you’ve forgiven any of this is beyond me. He must have systematically broken you down.

He needs to go. The man is beyond a liar, he’s just worthless, manipulative scum.

MrsMarzetti · 08/01/2024 10:20

Just why ? Why on earth are you putting up with a liar and cadger, are you so scared of being single ? You are a glutton for punishment. Make your choices.

ISpyNoPlumPie · 08/01/2024 10:20

He is abusing you and he will ruin your life.

Ramalangadingdong · 08/01/2024 10:23

Op, do you have anyone you can turn to? You might feel embarrassed to tell someone close what you have told us about your boyfriend's lies, but this really isn't your fault. Despite what some are saying about you being a fool to try to "work things through" with him, please try not to be too hard on yourself. Some of us have been in your position and it is sometimes more complicated than they know. When someone has taken control of you like that it can take a while to break free. This can happen to anyone - even all the women who think themselves stronger than you. They're not.

Don't try to deal with this alone. I haven't rtft, but am sure that people have already mentioned Women's Aid and other agencies that can help you to free yourself from this person who has gradually taken control of you (I have just had to witness the same thing happen to a friend of mine. What is worse is that it has happened to her daughter too! Her daughter is so bright, but the partner constantly undermines her so that she is a bit of a psychological wreck and has lost all confidence in herself and thinks of herself as stupid).

Keep talking on here - especially if you have no-one else to confide in. Ignore any negativity towards you and focus on those of us who have your back, despite being strangers.

ThisHumanBean · 08/01/2024 10:23

OP read your own post back and try and decide under what circumstances you would advise someone else to not dump and move on from this character?

There really are none! This is black and white. He is a compulsive liar and a master of spin, there is no positive future with this man.

silverbubbles · 08/01/2024 10:24

What are you doing?
Why on earth did you ever get back together with him after you kicked him out??
Have some self respect and just finish it with him because he is a compulsive liar.

NonSequentialRhubarb · 08/01/2024 10:24

He's not just an insane level of liar and a twat, he's a scammer. He has scammed you out of thousands of pounds by having you pay the majority of the bills because of his fake mortgages.

Maybe viewing him through that lens will get through to you and make you realise what he truly is.

You aren't in a relationship with a liar. You're in a romance scam with a common or garden conman who has stolen thousands from you with his sob story.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 08/01/2024 10:25

I voted YABU because, never mind "unreasonable", you were out of your goddamn mind taking him back the first time.

LTB, and make sure it's permanent this time.

DeeLusional · 08/01/2024 10:27

Blindasabatt · 08/01/2024 08:52

he really has done a number on me. I don’t even recognise who I have become.I didn’t think I’d get over the lies but I suppose the blaming me has distracted me from that.

Yes I do pay most of the rent and bills. This was because he was having a hard time with mortgage rates etc…

HE'S A CON MAN AND YOU KNOW IT (capitals deliberate)

NahHumBrag · 08/01/2024 10:27

Dear Lord.

LEAVE HIM.

That’s truly all there is to say about this awful relationship.

CoffeeMachineNewbie · 08/01/2024 10:27

So he acts like a dickhead, turns it on you and has a tantrum and you run around begging him to forgive you?

This piece of shit will always find someone willing to accept his selfishness bt it doesnt have to be yu. He wont change and he doesnt have to because he will always find someone willing to put up with him. Stop fighting the current and find someone who is genuinely pulling in the same direction.

willWillSmithsmith · 08/01/2024 10:27

Good grief why are you still with him?! Are you actually volunteering to spend your life with a man who has no relationship with the truth? Why would you do that? You can’t ‘talk’ these things out, he’s a liar and a fantasist and will lie for the rest of his life. If you care about yourself at all you should get rid.

egowise · 08/01/2024 10:28

YABU to have stayed with him after the many many lies!?

Flopsythebunny · 08/01/2024 10:31

Blindasabatt · 08/01/2024 08:52

he really has done a number on me. I don’t even recognise who I have become.I didn’t think I’d get over the lies but I suppose the blaming me has distracted me from that.

Yes I do pay most of the rent and bills. This was because he was having a hard time with mortgage rates etc…

But he wasn't was he because he doesn't have any mortgages.
He's just a cocklodger.
Pack all his things up and get him out

Ramalangadingdong · 08/01/2024 10:34

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 08/01/2024 10:25

I voted YABU because, never mind "unreasonable", you were out of your goddamn mind taking him back the first time.

LTB, and make sure it's permanent this time.

She was probably in shock at first. I have noticed that when I am in shock I don't quite believe that the awful thing that is happening to me actually is iyswim. Her mind would have been flitting between the man she had settled down with and saw her future with, and the scammer that she had uncovered. A big part of her would want the property owner to be real, so she would try to salvage even some vestige of that person (and, as someone mentioned upthread he would have done a number on her). I don't think it is going to help her if we put the blame on her or make out that she is some kind of idiot - she has had enough of that from him and from herself, probably. She needs support.

Bansheed · 08/01/2024 10:38

chipsandpeas · 08/01/2024 08:43

just end it

This is all you need to do

Bernieee · 08/01/2024 10:41

You are in an emotionally abusive relationship and you are being extremely gaslit, so much so that you’re questions yourself and your valid reactions.

You CANNOT trust this man. He is a serial and compulsive liar.
The first lie about the houses would’ve been reason enough to leave him.

He is priming you to be the perfect victim, to accept his lies and awful behaviour so that he can do whatever he likes with no retribution. If you stay in this relationship it will never get better -EVER. Things will escalate and he will become crueler and more abusive, whilst making you think it’s your fault.

There is nothing you can do to make him treat you well. Simply put, you don’t treat the people you love - IN FACT YOU DONT TREAT THE PEOPLE YOU LIKE, Like this!!!

Please leave, you will kick yourself if you don’t. Be prepared that he’ll try and spin things on you. Or he may be apologetic and treat you well. But it won’t last. Once he thinks he secured you again, he’ll be back to his old ways. And so this cycle of misery will continue

BaconMassive · 08/01/2024 10:41

Don't kick him out. Boot him out. Big Boot.