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Lying boyfriend blames my reaction

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Blindasabatt · 08/01/2024 08:38

I found out accidentally that my partner had been lying to me about a number of things, some since we first met 3 years ago.

He told me he owned properties and about the tenants living in those properties. He talked about the mortgages rates going up and how he planned to sell them but it just wasn’t happening, as the market was bad.

Turns out it was all a lie and he owns no properties. Made it all up.

Then he went away on a trip abroad and told me it was a business trip. I had a feeling something wasn’t right I rang him when he landed and confronted him. He flew into a rage of how could I accuse him of that and not trust him. Sent me evidence pictures he was where he said he was. He refused to speak with me the entire time he was away (a week) other than messages telling me how annoyed he was at me for doubting him. Then when he came back we ‘worked through things’. He swore blind he was where he said he was and told me about his meetings and his friends he had seen whilst there. I was told I had trust issues and that I could call his friends to prove he was telling the truth. I asked him numerous times about the trip and he got annoyed at me each time.

I found out a year later that he was actually on a boys trip parting in another country entirely.

So I found out about all of this (and more) at the same time. My spidey senses were just screaming at me to look into it all. I was so enraged once I found out he was lying that I went through his things to find more evidence. I’m not proud of this, but at this point I don’t even know who this man is who is living with me.

I was furious and totally devastated to find out that the man I loved so deeply and who I was hoping to marry and spend my life with had lied to me like this.

I packed some of his stuff and threw it outside and sent him a text dumping him. He came over the next day and we talked it through, he denied the lies and tried to spin me a story. I asked him to stay and work it out. He said no that he was leaving as I kicked him out and ‘no one does that to him’ and that he can’t forgive me for that.

We did work things through over the course of 2 weeks and he kept coming back to the fact that I kicked him out being such an awful thing. He came clean on the lies (it took him over a week and he was still trying to deny it and show me false evidence of his lies).

Now we have moved forward, 6 months later, and he is fixated on the fact that I kicked him out. He doesn’t trust me anymore, he says he can’t rely on me after what I did. I admit, I could have handled things better, but I didn’t. I didn’t know who this person was anymore and was scared and disgusted.

He is now cold and distant and unaffectionate and I’m miserable. He says it all stems from me kicking him out like that.

I show him everyday that I want to be there for him, help him in every way possible, but he just says I don’t help, he doesn’t need my help and he can do it all himself and I’m dragging him down with my sadness.

Was my response unreasonable and do I deserve to be punished like this?

OP posts:
Loloh2014 · 08/01/2024 20:26

I voted YABU, you are invested in someone who doesn't appear to care about you. He's manipulative, does he pay for bills?You're better off on your own.

PennyDainty · 08/01/2024 21:11

Trust me, I'm speaking from experience...If you stay with this person you'll be an empty shell of yourself before you know it. Just because you're being reasonable, showing understanding and giving love, doesn't mean that he'll ever match it. There will be no closure but you'll be saving yourself from a serious derailment that's very hard to recover from. Damaged people do damage, break the cycle.

Blindasabatt · 08/01/2024 21:45

Funny, he would swear on his kids life that he was telling the truth. Who does that?!

I get the rain thing. I’m at a point I don’t quite believe him when he tells me what he had for breakfast. It’s a pretty rubbish place to be.

OP posts:
Blindasabatt · 08/01/2024 21:47

I am so sorry your sister went through that. It sounds truly awful. I really hope she has found happiness now.

OP posts:
Zooeyzo · 08/01/2024 21:47

Get rid of him. Sounds like you're just torturing yourself.

HellsToilet · 08/01/2024 21:49

Blindasabatt · 08/01/2024 21:45

Funny, he would swear on his kids life that he was telling the truth. Who does that?!

I get the rain thing. I’m at a point I don’t quite believe him when he tells me what he had for breakfast. It’s a pretty rubbish place to be.

I always assume that people who say that are lying.

Zanatdy · 08/01/2024 21:51

Wow, he’s managed to spin this round 360 so you’re no longer as angry about his lies and believe you’re the one in the wrong. This guy is something else. He will never change, he’s harping on about how hard done by his is because he was thrown out for some pretty big lies so he can throw you off the scent of even more lies. Do you want to live your life like this?

Blindasabatt · 08/01/2024 21:53

Thank you everyone for all the replies to my post. It’s a bit overwhelming to have so many responses saying that it’s abusive what he is doing.

I’ve looked into DARVO and abuse and can see that it all seems familiar.

Calls me needy if I ask for basic things, belittles me at times.

I chose to forgive him and move on because I thought this man was the love of my life but since then he has shown me this entire other side and I don’t like it at all.

I’m still researching more now and am seeing a friend tomorrow who I’m going to talk to about everything.

Thank you all again.

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Catsmere · 08/01/2024 21:58

The man you loved didn't exist. He was a fictional character made up by this lying PoS. Your whole life with him is a lie. Get rid of him, ffs. I'd call him a leech except that's insulting to leeches, who don't act out of malice.

Tonight1 · 08/01/2024 22:00

You deserve better. Glad you are meeting your friend tomorrow.

bendypines · 08/01/2024 22:12

Have only read your posts OP and not everyone elses, and apologies if this has been said already by someone else.

He's a despicable habitual liar. Kick him out again, and next time, don't have him back.

SamW98 · 08/01/2024 22:18

Blindasabatt · 08/01/2024 21:53

Thank you everyone for all the replies to my post. It’s a bit overwhelming to have so many responses saying that it’s abusive what he is doing.

I’ve looked into DARVO and abuse and can see that it all seems familiar.

Calls me needy if I ask for basic things, belittles me at times.

I chose to forgive him and move on because I thought this man was the love of my life but since then he has shown me this entire other side and I don’t like it at all.

I’m still researching more now and am seeing a friend tomorrow who I’m going to talk to about everything.

Thank you all again.

Please show this thread to your friend OP and tell her everything you’ve posted here.

And please take onboard what everyone has said on here.

Gnrdave · 08/01/2024 22:36

He's manipulating and abusing you

Ramalangadingdong · 08/01/2024 22:53

So glad you are going to talk to a friend and tell her everything. It is much easier to leave him if you have someone in your corner. I had to do it on my own and it is no joke. Take your own time. When and how you don it is up to you - nothing to do with the people telling you to do it NOW!! But if you are ready and your friend is standing by you, you have nothing to lose.

BreakingAndBroke · 08/01/2024 23:32

"He doesn’t trust me anymore, he says he can’t rely on me after what I did."

Is he for real?! HE can't trust YOU?

Ultimately, neither of you trust the other one. Time to close the door on this relationship and find one with someone who isn't a compulsive liar.

2024 - new year, new start. Good luck to you 🤞

Anniegetyourgun · 08/01/2024 23:50

I can't remember the exact quote (failed to look it up on Google, found a lot of interesting sites about liars though), but some wise man said that the problem liars have is not so much that nobody can trust them, but that they are unable to trust anybody else. He will never, never trust (or forgive) you however much you try to prove yourself worthy, because he is not himself worthy and he doesn't understand honest people. Yes, I had one of those too. Like a twit, I married and had children with him. Don't do that.

longingforalife · 09/01/2024 07:52

So glad to hear that you can get some support in real life.

He has shown you who he is. Please believe him.

Lillush · 09/01/2024 09:53

He has a problem that he is putting on you. Even though you had evidence of his lies, it took a week for him to come clean ish. He's annoyed you found him out and is clinging on to the fact you threw him out to win ground, it's desperation, you don't need this in your life. I would tell him his behaviour since has made you realise you don't want to spend your relationship making up for something he has done and you actually would like him to leave.

Somethingsnappy · 09/01/2024 10:35

Oh op, do it, kick him out. Make this a new year's resolution and be strong. You'll feel rubbish for a few days and will wonder if you've don't the right thing, but then you'll feel better, see the light, and eventually wonder what the hell you were doing with that crap excuse for a man. You say you thought he was the love of your life, but that man doesn't exist. He isn't and was never real. You were in love with the idea of him, and the false way he originally presented himself to draw you in. He isn't real.

I don't often post on threads about other people's relationships, but I felt compelled to this time. If you could read your own post through the eyes of all of us who are reading it, you would be appalled. But you can't see clearly enough while you are still involved. But you are starting to see clearly, hence why you started this thread.

I was in a relationship with a compulsive liar once, but I didn't live with him, and his lies weren't nearly as bad as your partner's, and he didn't gaslight me. But still, when I look back at the relationship, it makes me feel slightly queasy.

Start a wonderful new year, recognise your own self worth, and kick out this ridiculous bloke. It'll be the best thing you did.

HalebiHabibti · 09/01/2024 10:48

OP, you don't need to research anything wrt working out if you're allowed to dump him. You're allowed to end a relationship for any reason, and you have so many good reasons to do so....

Fullofxmascbeer · 09/01/2024 11:00

It seems you may be on the verge of leaving him. Deep breath and do it. Hope the friend encourages it too.

Don’t forget she may only see the “good” front he puts on. The side that had you hoodwinked for so long. It may be hard for her to get her head round to how evil he actually is, just as it did you. He’s good at being a con man.

Please don’t let her persuade you to stay. Everyone on here is away from the situation and are being totally objective. Make sure she helps you actually leave him.

CleverLilViper · 09/01/2024 11:03

Oh, dear.

He's an utter liar and I wouldn't be shocked, given the types of lies he's telling (conjuring up rental properties that don't exist, fabricating work business trips that are actually a boy's trip) if this is just the tip of iceberg. Can you even trust that his name is actually his name at this point? He sounds like a con man.

He's got you right where he wants you. Paying the lion's share of the bills because of "mortgage rates" which don't actually exist as he lied about the properties, taking the blame for his lies and "breaking his trust" after throwing him out (which he deserves to still be thrown out).

This isn't going to end well. He doesn't even sound like he's sorry. It would be one thing, and it's not necessarily even forgivable in this situation, if he was taking one-hundred per cent accountability for his lies, but he's not. He's blaming you for questioning him and finding out about his lies.

You can't trust him and trust me when I say this, it's only a matter of time before you unearth more lies that he's told already or he starts spinning yet more lies that he will no doubt blame you for finding out about.

You need to end this now. People like this are pathological liars. They can't help it (and that doesn't absolve them from blame) but they enjoy it. They take pleasure in pulling the wool over people's eyes.

Cut your losses and run. Don't get caught up in any more of this BS. You don't need it and its better to be alone than stuck with someone like this.

Fernticket · 09/01/2024 12:25

DUMP THE FUCKER!!!!

Tonight1 · 09/01/2024 12:41

Don't lose your money and become dependant on him whilst he smashes up your self esteem

SoundTheSirens · 09/01/2024 13:38

Remember OP: you don't need anyone's permission, least of all his, to end this. You could end it because you didn't like the way he ate his soup if you wanted to, much less the fact you can't trust a word that drips from his lying mouth.