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Aibu to think Call Centre "music" should be optional?

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stringinalong · 05/01/2024 10:58

I've been on hold to Appliances Direct's Extended Warranty call centre for 50 minutes. They're playing unpleasant high pitched music repeatedly. I've got my phone on speaker so I can be "hands free" and continue to work, but I can't focus because of the music, and can't reduce the volume in case I miss the pickup. What I really need is a "Press 1 to turn off the music" option!

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alcohole · 05/01/2024 14:51

It’s been years since I’ve phoned a company and have been stuck on hold for significant periods of time. I think for me, it was better to wait on hold for however long it would take in silence vs hearing random music or messages as it impacts my concentration. All the automated messages do is make you think your call is about to be answered, but no it’s just the nth repetition raising your hopes…

However with the music, there’s research that indicates having certain music play during these periods makes the caller less aggressive or more inclined to be calm when they finally get through to someone, makes the call wait length seems shorter, makes them more receptive etc. So I see why companies might not be inclined to give the option to turn it off

PossumintheHouse · 05/01/2024 15:00

alcohole · 05/01/2024 14:51

It’s been years since I’ve phoned a company and have been stuck on hold for significant periods of time. I think for me, it was better to wait on hold for however long it would take in silence vs hearing random music or messages as it impacts my concentration. All the automated messages do is make you think your call is about to be answered, but no it’s just the nth repetition raising your hopes…

However with the music, there’s research that indicates having certain music play during these periods makes the caller less aggressive or more inclined to be calm when they finally get through to someone, makes the call wait length seems shorter, makes them more receptive etc. So I see why companies might not be inclined to give the option to turn it off

For fuck sake 😂😂😂

stringinalong · 05/01/2024 15:01

alcohole · 05/01/2024 14:51

It’s been years since I’ve phoned a company and have been stuck on hold for significant periods of time. I think for me, it was better to wait on hold for however long it would take in silence vs hearing random music or messages as it impacts my concentration. All the automated messages do is make you think your call is about to be answered, but no it’s just the nth repetition raising your hopes…

However with the music, there’s research that indicates having certain music play during these periods makes the caller less aggressive or more inclined to be calm when they finally get through to someone, makes the call wait length seems shorter, makes them more receptive etc. So I see why companies might not be inclined to give the option to turn it off

The music on my call must have been designed to wind people up, not calm them down. I gave up after 90 minutes. But at least they redeemed themselves slightly by answering my email (unusual for that to be quicker than answering the phone).

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TheZoehan · 05/01/2024 15:02

TheThingIsYeah · 05/01/2024 11:13

Yes but your call is REALLY IMPORTANT to them, and they appreciate your patience, and they apologise for the delay as they are experiencing a higher than average call volume. But again, your call is REALLY IMPORTANT to them, and they apologise for the delay....

😂😂😂

IvanaTinkles · 05/01/2024 15:28

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 05/01/2024 13:08

That sounds encouraging - now all they need to do is crack the part where they resolve your issue!

If you're going to have a system where you ask people to say a few words to identify what the nature of their call is, you need to have intelligent software that can process this, instead of just having a wild 'any ole thing'll do' guess.

Also, don't ask people to say "Yes" or "No" to a simple question and then tell them off because they haven't said anything when they have; whatever accent you may have, it's not like the two words sound remotely similar.

Totally! Thankfully Sky did sort out my issue fairly quickly so pretty impressed overall. On the flip side of this, had horrendous problems with Vodafone a couple of years ago that require many many calls to them over a 6 month period. I listened to the damn Coldplay song they had on their hold music so many times, I swear if I’d bumped in to Chris Martin in the street I would have throttled him!

Otalask · 05/01/2024 17:20

Oh God voice recognition ... doesn't work if you're Scottish. I doubt it works for anyone really but it definitely definitely doesn't work for Scottish. Hence conversations like, after 45 minutes on hold to LNER, "sooo ... I can see you want to go from ... Manchester to, urm ..... Manchester?! ... on the, urm, 57th of February 1909 ...? .. Urm, I'm guessing that's not quite right "

MargaretThursday · 05/01/2024 17:35

I've never found any music as annoying as the message that breaks into the music about every 15 seconds to suggest you try their website. As if I wouldn't have chosen to try that if I could, and if I hadn't thought of it the first time they suggested it, it's unlikely I will think after 30 minutes (and hearing the message over 100 times) I will suddenly think "oh wow! What a good idea".

And about half those times the music goes off and I grab the phone to say "hello" only to find it's the pre-recorded message again.

LlynTegid · 05/01/2024 17:36

I'm sure no company would ever aim to answer the phone quickly and not put you on hold. I assume it is to hope you go online to find out the information.

LlynTegid · 05/01/2024 17:37

@IvanaTinkles if you had stopped Chris Martin singing again, the world would be a better place, though I would not want it to be from violence.

YeahIsaidit · 05/01/2024 17:40

"please hold, your call is really important to us and we'll answer your call as soon as a customer services representative becomes available"

Opus No. 1

Provided to YouTube by DistroKidOpus No. 1 · Tim CarletonOpus No. 1℗ TIM CARLETONReleased on: 2016-06-01Auto-generated by YouTube.

https://youtu.be/N7xn5zeJ4D4?si=yUrrIOgcv_WH9OGt

Clarabellasingsthisbit · 05/01/2024 17:46

Oh @YeahIsaidit this is what we get when ringing our GP's surgery.It drives me insane😫

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 05/01/2024 19:23

'We are experiencing unusually high call volumes' Yeah right, except you ALWAYS are, apparently. Hire more staff, FGS.

Isn't it odd how they quite cheerfully tell you this, as if it somehow fully justifies and excuses their basic inability to answer their phones? They're not embarrassed or ashamed in the least that they can't do their job efficiently.

As you say, it's every single time, so it can hardly come as a surprise. 'Unusually high call volumes' compared to what, anyway - the amount of calls their nan gets each day at home?!

I'm sure no company would ever aim to answer the phone quickly and not put you on hold. I assume it is to hope you go online to find out the information.

I agree with you - I think they plan it deliberately. The thing is, though, that if I'm calling them, it's because I can't find an answer on their website or it's a load of rubbish. Believe me: I'd much rather have a few clicks online, rather than wait for half an hour to speak to somebody who sounds like a robot and tries to make out that their problems are being caused by me.

Conversely, they will also have a lot of elderly, disabled and vulnerable customers who are either not online at all or otherwise struggle to access information that way. If they like receiving these customers' money, they should also value them and provide the service that they need and pay for.

TheLogicalSong · 05/01/2024 19:28

Otalask · 05/01/2024 17:20

Oh God voice recognition ... doesn't work if you're Scottish. I doubt it works for anyone really but it definitely definitely doesn't work for Scottish. Hence conversations like, after 45 minutes on hold to LNER, "sooo ... I can see you want to go from ... Manchester to, urm ..... Manchester?! ... on the, urm, 57th of February 1909 ...? .. Urm, I'm guessing that's not quite right "

Sorry, but that made me 😂

MargaretThursday · 05/01/2024 21:27

I was wondering: Has anyone called any commercial phone line in the last three years and not been told they're experiencing unusually high demands? I don't think I have.
I've even had it on 999.

hellsBells246 · 05/01/2024 22:00

Fuck, yeah. Hate musak. Especially repeated.

PinkyBlueMe · 05/01/2024 22:02

RabbitsRock · 05/01/2024 13:06

I can’t remember who does it but one company I ring offers silence with occasional beeps as an alternative. Everywhere needs to implement this!

I called Santander today and their message offered this. First time I've experienced for offer of no musak!

Falkenburg · 05/01/2024 22:03

I raised a complaint with British Gas and one of the things they have had to agree to is never to play music if I am put on hold.

coronafiona · 05/01/2024 22:05

Also, chatbots, option to speak to a human every time please. If I could work the answer out through your YouTube video section? I would y be trying to contact you. L

Paw2024 · 06/01/2024 01:38

MargaretThursday · 05/01/2024 21:27

I was wondering: Has anyone called any commercial phone line in the last three years and not been told they're experiencing unusually high demands? I don't think I have.
I've even had it on 999.

Yep, the company I work for! It doesn't tell you at all that there is high demand
No music. Just will keep telling you the queue position

Staff hate it too - it's stressful when you can see how many calls are waiting and for how long and everything is flashing red
I get through them as quick as I can but physically.. my max is usually 180 calls in 8hrs

My only tip is to ring very early, very late, when something important/corrie/football is on TV is also a good option. Weekends usually quieter too. Lunch time is often manic and so are Mondays and Friday afternoons. Don't ring at 9am on a Monday morning for anything if you can avoid it!

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 06/01/2024 01:52

Yep, the company I work for! It doesn't tell you at all that there is high demand
No music. Just will keep telling you the queue position

But is your queue position normally in the top 3, or is it more like 29?!

I forget which company it was, but I distinctly recall once having to wait for some time, actually listening to Blondie's 'Hanging On The Telephone'! As a certain Mr Partridge would say, "They do it on purpose, Lynn!"

I also remember, back in the days of Telewest cable TV (long before they became/merged with Virgin), they always used the same hold music every time you called them: Movin' On Up by Primal Scream; except they only used about 8 bars of the instrumental interlude on a loop and never any of the sung parts. Maybe because you weren't movin' on up their queue very quickly?! I used to love that song beforehand, but my many necessary calls to them spoiled it forever for me.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 06/01/2024 02:09

I can hand on heart say there is one company I always looked forward to calling. Sandals! Ok yes it was about my trip… but beyond that they play Bob Marley for their hold music and their customer service is fantastic.

Honestly, calling them every year (to arrange a my discount) was one of the highlights of my trip! I’m kind of sad I can arrange the discount via chat and email now 🥺

Sladuf · 06/01/2024 02:15

YeahIsaidit · 05/01/2024 17:40

"please hold, your call is really important to us and we'll answer your call as soon as a customer services representative becomes available"

I knew somebody would have posted this “ditty!” 😂😂
When I worked for the council this was the holding music. I’d hear it most days waiting to get through to the IT helpdesk.

Paw2024 · 06/01/2024 02:15

@FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper average day it's maybe 5 queuing
Bad day.. 20 is the worst I've seen
Each call takes between 1-10 mins to deal with depending on the person handling it

Sladuf · 06/01/2024 02:32

YANBU! A few years ago I was spending most of my lunch breaks and 40 minutes after work minimum trying to get through to my insurance company.
They’d ring while I was busy at work, I’d miss the call, try to return it and then be on hold for an eternity, Their holding music wasn’t as irritating as most the first few times but I was hearing it in my sleep!

There’s a mostly instrumental 80s song I’ve often thought could pass as “hold music” - Twilight by Maze:
I wouldn’t mind being on hold listening to that.

Twilight

Provided to YouTube by Universal Music GroupTwilight · MazeSomething For The Weekend℗ 1985 Capitol Records, LLCReleased on: 2006-01-01Producer: Frankie Bever...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdkXOIEWDnM

JMSA · 06/01/2024 03:10

YANBU!