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Actor stopped because of emailer in audience

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ChangeNameLikeIChangeSocks · 02/01/2024 22:24

I just read about this in the guardian, I'll put a picture of the heading of the article.

He says he "thought" the audience member was sending emails on his laptop. I wonder how he knew that, presumably he couldn't see the screen, and signal in theatres is dreadful. I would take a punt that he was in fact playing minesweeper.

I'm going off topic. The reason I wanted to post this is because it leapt out as me as a parallel to typical behaviour in many of the (Good!) schools I've taught in. Low level disruption. Except it's not one audience (class) member, it's most of them.

So I had to smile wryly to myself that this made the national news.

Either the audience member had very good reason, or this is a natural follow on from the deterioration of respect and good behaviour in schools.

Oh actors, come teach the dear children!

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ErrolTheDragon · 03/01/2024 23:30

To be honest, I hate that it has become necessary to broadcast such a reminder. It reminds me that people just don't know how to behave these days (how old do I sound? I'm not even thirty!)

Tbh I don't see the reminder like that - more that simply we're so used to having our phones on us we don't necessarily think about them being in a pocket or handbag any more than we would our purse or keys. DH had to remind me to put my watch on theatre mode when I first had it.

BIossomtoes · 03/01/2024 23:33

Just been to the ballet. At the beginning of the performance the audience was asked to turn off all devices.

DdraigGoch · 04/01/2024 03:11

Desolatewardrobe · 03/01/2024 20:47

Not representative of any general French attitude. I work across Europe and phone etiquette is the same (poor) across the board. I’d say in fact that the Brits are on the better end of the scale.

I've only really passed through France on my way to Switzerland. In the Netherlands and in German-speaking countries the passengers robustly self-police the trains.

LightSwerve · 04/01/2024 03:18

DdraigGoch · 03/01/2024 20:40

To be honest, I hate that it has become necessary to broadcast such a reminder. It reminds me that people just don't know how to behave these days (how old do I sound? I'm not even thirty!)

I'd prefer it if theatres took a hard line on this, with immediate ejection for using a device. Unfortunately ushers don't have enough back up in case of someone kicking off.

I'm taking issue with your 'these days' - I recall that when going to the cinema over thirty years ago there were announcements reminding patrons not to talk during the performance.

DdraigGoch · 04/01/2024 03:28

LightSwerve · 04/01/2024 03:18

I'm taking issue with your 'these days' - I recall that when going to the cinema over thirty years ago there were announcements reminding patrons not to talk during the performance.

What about in theatres though? Obviously smartphones weren't available then.

LightSwerve · 04/01/2024 04:06

DdraigGoch · 04/01/2024 03:28

What about in theatres though? Obviously smartphones weren't available then.

I remember people moaning about others eating sweets (crinkly packets) and talking. I can't honestly remember if there were announcements about talking at my local theatre. I remember there used to be aggressive shushing!

One different behaviour these days is drunkenness in the theatre.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 04/01/2024 07:54

I remember there used to be aggressive shushing!

And tutting. Does anyone tut anymore?

PurpleChrayne · 04/01/2024 08:07

But how did Scott know he was emailing??

Riverlee · 04/01/2024 08:15

PurpleChrayne · 04/01/2024 08:07

But how did Scott know he was emailing??

It’s irrelevant what the audience member Was doing. The fact was that he had an open, switched-on computer in the theatre and was engaging with it. If he needed to work, or respond to an urgent message, he should have left auditorium

KimberleyClark · 04/01/2024 08:53

PegasusReturns · 03/01/2024 16:48

How do they go on holiday then?

speaking for myself I remain contactable whilst on leave and my team knows to phone me with anything urgent. I check in on emails every few days. Usually I don’t need to do much more than sign/approve documents but occasionally I’ve had to abandon my leave.

I think this is a really unhealthy attitude to work tbh. You sound like a workaholic or at least unable or unwilling to delegate. You should be able to completely switch off while on holiday.

PegasusReturns · 04/01/2024 09:44

I think this is a really unhealthy attitude to work tbh. You sound like a workaholic or at least unable or unwilling to delegate. You should be able to completely switch off while on holiday

In an ideal world I agree it would be lovely to completely switch off, but and at the risk of enraging the “gosh aren’t you so important” folk” that’s just not how my job - and many other senior roles work.

I don’t think that makes me a workaholic, I’m a conscientious professional who enjoys their work and I can and do delegate many tasks to my team but ultimately the buck stops with me. I get very well rewarded for my work and have a significant stake in the success of the company I work for and there’s a trade off: I rarely miss a school performance, a sports match or medical appointment because my boss trusts me implicitly to make good decisions about how I organise my time and run my diary.

all that said and for the avoidance of doubt I don’t use my phone in the theatre.

novhange · 04/01/2024 09:46

KimberleyClark · 04/01/2024 08:53

I think this is a really unhealthy attitude to work tbh. You sound like a workaholic or at least unable or unwilling to delegate. You should be able to completely switch off while on holiday.

This is pretty normal in many companies, even for middle management.

I’ve remained contactable even throughout Christmas/NY even though I was officially off for weeks.

Janiie · 04/01/2024 09:49

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/01/2024 23:19

Janiie · Today 12:28
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God, he needs to get over himself if he can't concentrate because there is a screen visible. How utterly horrid!
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Screens are everywhere, as long as they are silent then so what.
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Not ideal granted but I'd rather have someone silently on a screen next to me then those who talk non stop or stuff their faces with crisps rattling the bag and slurping

There’s always one. Screens (phones/headphones, whatever) in the audience have no place whatsoever at a live performance.

Maybe just stay home and watch Netflix in future?

'Theres always one' Grin.

Look, to be clear as you've misunderstood, I don't agree wirh the audience doing anything to annoy fellow viewers. My point is the petulant actor's response was far worse than what the person on the laptop was doing. Focus, get on with it and stop being a Prima Donna.

Then make sure staff in future in the aisles are doing their job monitoring the situation and have clear rules that tech is not allowed.

To stop mid apparent 'intense scene' is pathetic.

Isthisreasonable · 04/01/2024 10:02

ErrolTheDragon · 03/01/2024 12:16

Re training courses - if people are liable to miss part of them for legitimate reasons, then I would hope they're recorded or there are sufficient printed materials so you can catch up? In which case leaving the room and not coming back part way through the session seems like a good idea for minimising disruption to others.

If there are training events where it really doesn't matter if you miss a large chunk then they're probably of questionable value in the first place.

This.

hydriotaphia · 04/01/2024 10:06

This thread has taken a weird turn. imho
-it is wholly unacceptable to use phones, laptops or podcast listening devices in the theatre. Andrew Scott acted correctly and he is brilliant.
-checking email discreetly on corporate training or stepping out to take a call is totally fine and normal (except maybe in some exceptional circumstances like it's diversity training and people are sharing personal stories) and the etiquette breach would absolutely be in a trainer 'calling this out'

hydriotaphia · 04/01/2024 10:09

Andrew Scott was in no way being a prima donna. The Almeida is a tiny theatre - someone using a laptop at such a crucial point in the play would be hugely disturbing and ruined one of the most famous and important parts of the play for a significant proportion of the audience.

Isthisreasonable · 04/01/2024 10:18

KimberleyClark · 04/01/2024 08:53

I think this is a really unhealthy attitude to work tbh. You sound like a workaholic or at least unable or unwilling to delegate. You should be able to completely switch off while on holiday.

If you've done any fraud training, this inability to detach from work is a red flag.

hydriotaphia · 04/01/2024 10:27

The fact is that many workplaces - eg city law, banking etc - expect people - particularly senior people - to be contactable on important matters and people are accountable for their performance. It can be unhealthy and unpleasant (though these people are generally comforted with generous salaries/bonuses) but the idea that it's an expectation that comes solely from within an individual and not from industry expectations is not correct.

Janiie · 04/01/2024 10:33

hydriotaphia · 04/01/2024 10:09

Andrew Scott was in no way being a prima donna. The Almeida is a tiny theatre - someone using a laptop at such a crucial point in the play would be hugely disturbing and ruined one of the most famous and important parts of the play for a significant proportion of the audience.

He absolutely is. One person distracted him so he thought he'd chuck a strop and spoil it for everyone. Unprofessional silly man.

fedupandstuck · 04/01/2024 10:44

hydriotaphia · 04/01/2024 10:09

Andrew Scott was in no way being a prima donna. The Almeida is a tiny theatre - someone using a laptop at such a crucial point in the play would be hugely disturbing and ruined one of the most famous and important parts of the play for a significant proportion of the audience.

I've just had a look at the theatre layout on their website, and I hadn't realised just what a small venue it is, with the stage and seats very close indeed. It would most definitely be a disturbance for someone to be sat with a laptop out and screen on, never mind the obvious rudeness and lack of consideration to the performers of doing so. I'd have been right behind Scott stopping, and I'd have regarded the audience member as 100% responsible for the interruption to the show.

BIossomtoes · 04/01/2024 10:51

I'd have been right behind Scott stopping, and I'd have regarded the audience member as 100% responsible for the interruption to the show.

So would most people, especially regular theatre goers. It’s a very odd perspective to blame Scott.

DdraigGoch · 04/01/2024 11:40

PegasusReturns · 04/01/2024 09:44

I think this is a really unhealthy attitude to work tbh. You sound like a workaholic or at least unable or unwilling to delegate. You should be able to completely switch off while on holiday

In an ideal world I agree it would be lovely to completely switch off, but and at the risk of enraging the “gosh aren’t you so important” folk” that’s just not how my job - and many other senior roles work.

I don’t think that makes me a workaholic, I’m a conscientious professional who enjoys their work and I can and do delegate many tasks to my team but ultimately the buck stops with me. I get very well rewarded for my work and have a significant stake in the success of the company I work for and there’s a trade off: I rarely miss a school performance, a sports match or medical appointment because my boss trusts me implicitly to make good decisions about how I organise my time and run my diary.

all that said and for the avoidance of doubt I don’t use my phone in the theatre.

Even the Admiral commanding the British Task Force at the Falklands managed to delegate all responsibility so that he could rest (he appointed two captains to act on his behalf while he slept).

PegasusReturns · 04/01/2024 13:38

Even the Admiral commanding the British Task Force at the Falklands managed to delegate all responsibility so that he could rest

I know nothing about the way in which the navy operates but assume there would have been issues for which he would have been woken up, would have expected to have been woken up and the powers that be would have demanded he be woken up.

OneTC · 04/01/2024 14:11

When I worked in the kind of industry that had training days people would have been giving me the fucking side eye if I hadn't been able to cover myself adequately for a few hours. They paid for me to go to this, the courses we were sent on were really expensive and it would have pulled the rug out from under their worth for my work to decide I don't really need to pay attention at them after all

BIossomtoes · 04/01/2024 14:49

PegasusReturns · 04/01/2024 13:38

Even the Admiral commanding the British Task Force at the Falklands managed to delegate all responsibility so that he could rest

I know nothing about the way in which the navy operates but assume there would have been issues for which he would have been woken up, would have expected to have been woken up and the powers that be would have demanded he be woken up.

Your assumption is incorrect. All responsibility means exactly that. His deputies were appointed so they could make decisions on his behalf. Nobody is indispensable, if he’d been badly wounded or killed those deputies would have stepped up.

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