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Actor stopped because of emailer in audience

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ChangeNameLikeIChangeSocks · 02/01/2024 22:24

I just read about this in the guardian, I'll put a picture of the heading of the article.

He says he "thought" the audience member was sending emails on his laptop. I wonder how he knew that, presumably he couldn't see the screen, and signal in theatres is dreadful. I would take a punt that he was in fact playing minesweeper.

I'm going off topic. The reason I wanted to post this is because it leapt out as me as a parallel to typical behaviour in many of the (Good!) schools I've taught in. Low level disruption. Except it's not one audience (class) member, it's most of them.

So I had to smile wryly to myself that this made the national news.

Either the audience member had very good reason, or this is a natural follow on from the deterioration of respect and good behaviour in schools.

Oh actors, come teach the dear children!

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ScierraDoll · 03/01/2024 14:51

I think you are right about increasing rudeness and the covid effect. Being locked in for months on end has made people more selfish and less considerate of others.

LightSwerve · 03/01/2024 15:02

ChangeNameLikeIChangeSocks · 03/01/2024 14:49

I didn't say there was none I said "we" didn't have any. My school. Sorry if that wasn't clearer.

I'm not being patronising. I really am sorry if you experienced that.

As a teacher of ten years' experience the worst violence I have seen is chair throwing. But verbal violence, yes, all the time

I don't pretend there is no issue in schools today, and there is a real behaviour problem I accept - and it is unacceptable for teachers to feel threatened - I just have an issue with the myth it used to be all sweetness and light.

Violence in 1950s schools was awful - you would never bother to tell a teacher if a pupil hit you, because the teacher would probably just hit you as well.

It just changes all the time.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/01/2024 15:04

Oh the youth of today and their bad behaviour...

Afaik first complained of by the ancient Egyptians. No doubt there were ill mannered people reading scrolls (or tablets) at inappropriate times then too.

Emotionalsupportviper · 03/01/2024 15:06

TheLogicalSong · 03/01/2024 12:42

"When I was playing Hamlet, a guy took out his laptop – not his phone, his laptop – while I was in the middle of ‘To be or not to fucking be’,” said the actor"

Why would a phone be OK but not a laptop?

Phone wouldn't be ok - bit it is small and most people carry one as a matter of course.

A laptop, though - it signals intent!

Emotionalsupportviper · 03/01/2024 15:08

EarringsandLipstick · 03/01/2024 12:52

@Emotionalsupportviper

Your posts are so full of assumptions, rudely put, that they are hardly worth replying to.

I have said it's nothing to do with 'importance' just the nature of the role; it's fully accepted by the facilitator and attendees, and is absolutely done discreetly & in a courteous way. We are all professionals and know what's appropriate.

I doubt I'm particularly 'young' or 'new blood' (47) but it does sound like you are unfamiliar with training practice at least in current HE environments. And I do always get plenty out of the course, which is usually task & discussion-based.

Don't reply to them, then.

You have posted anything that isn't patronising or answer-avoidant anyway.

ChangeNameLikeIChangeSocks · 03/01/2024 15:09

ErrolTheDragon · 03/01/2024 15:04

Oh the youth of today and their bad behaviour...

Afaik first complained of by the ancient Egyptians. No doubt there were ill mannered people reading scrolls (or tablets) at inappropriate times then too.

Yes and the Greeks!

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Emotionalsupportviper · 03/01/2024 15:14

Desolatewardrobe · 03/01/2024 13:14

I read that as ‘not EVEN his phone, his laptop’. A phone being bad enough but a laptop worse.

I would be driven insane by someone getting a laptop out in the theatre. The light alone would be massively distracting, let alone whatever they were doing on it. And I would also be so fucking irritated that they were breaking the atmosphere of everyone being in the same world of whatever I was watching, if that makes sense.

I would also be so fucking irritated that they were breaking the atmosphere of everyone being in the same world of whatever I was watching, if that makes sense.

It does make sense - you go to the theatre to be transported into the world of the production - not be continually dragged back to reality by some twit disturbing your concentration. (And you pay a lot of money for the privilege, too)

KimberleyClark · 03/01/2024 15:17

Emotionalsupportviper · 03/01/2024 15:06

Phone wouldn't be ok - bit it is small and most people carry one as a matter of course.

A laptop, though - it signals intent!

I suppose he might have had his laptop with him because he’d come to the theatre straight from work, but that is no excuse for actually getting it out!

Emotionalsupportviper · 03/01/2024 15:22

ErrolTheDragon · 03/01/2024 14:03

I wonder whether some of the training events discussed on this thread really do work. Sounds to me like if people can just miss parts in the ways described, then they're some combination of not really essential or bloated. Confused

It's probably those "We've ticked this box" courses, where you get a certificate just or turning up even if you sit and play World of Warcraft all the way through.

They are non-courses in my book - just office politics stuff.

Janiie · 03/01/2024 15:32

KimberleyClark · 03/01/2024 15:17

I suppose he might have had his laptop with him because he’d come to the theatre straight from work, but that is no excuse for actually getting it out!

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He's an actor saying a few lines! honestly we aren't talking about a surgeon performing open heart surgery here and the theatre staff wheeled in a karaoke machine and started doing the conga. Perspective is needed.

Abracadabra12345 · 03/01/2024 15:35

Fizbosshoes · 03/01/2024 11:06

I know it's not the same but I often feel frustrated at the amount of people on trains who are having calls on loud speaker (often repeating themselves multiple times because of sketchy connections/tunnels) listening to music on headphones but so loud you can hear it half a carriage away or just watching/listening to stuff at full volume, no headphones (or putting kids videos on at full volume)
I frequently get up to move if this is overwhelming but sometimes it's impossible to escape other people's noisy devices when half the carriage seems to be doing it!

Oh I so agree! And I know it's considered normal now.

I can't travel without my noise cancelling Bose earbuds

ErrolTheDragon · 03/01/2024 15:35

He's an actor saying a few lines! honestly we aren't talking about a surgeon performing open heart surgery here and the theatre staff wheeled in a karaoke machine and started doing the conga. Perspective is needed.

The only perspective needed is that it's completely unnecessary and bloody rude of anyone to open a laptop in a theatre. wtf would anyone defend it?Confused

Desolatewardrobe · 03/01/2024 15:44

Janiie · 03/01/2024 15:32

He's an actor saying a few lines! honestly we aren't talking about a surgeon performing open heart surgery here and the theatre staff wheeled in a karaoke machine and started doing the conga. Perspective is needed.

Everyone has come to the theatre to listen to those actors saying those lines, and in the case of that production of Hamlet, they’ve probably paid a lot of money and might have made effort to get the tickets. He’s totally entitled to think of himself as the centre of attention because he literally is, and he’s performing the most intense and emotional part of the play. He’s entitled to professional pride, and to want the audience to get the very most from what they are seeing.

DdraigGoch · 03/01/2024 15:50

KimberleyClark · 03/01/2024 11:10

DH and I travelled by train in France recently and couldn’t help but be impressed when a man in an adjacent seat whose phone rang stood up and went to the end of the carriage to take the call.

In the UK "Quiet Coach" usually ends up meaning "please don't play music on loudspeaker". In most European countries I've visited, that's the case for all train carriages and the Quiet Coach is expected to be like a library - woe betide anyone who so much as eats noisily.

istoodonlegoagain · 03/01/2024 15:57

A friend's 3 month old baby died last year, she was a 23 weeker who had been doing really well until the day she died and took a very swift turn. At the grave side a woman (MIL of bereaved mum's friend) got a phone call, answered it, and loudly starting chatting away. Absolutely zero self awareness at all.

istoodonlegoagain · 03/01/2024 15:57

This was the funeral btw

BIossomtoes · 03/01/2024 16:02

Janiie · 03/01/2024 15:32

He's an actor saying a few lines! honestly we aren't talking about a surgeon performing open heart surgery here and the theatre staff wheeled in a karaoke machine and started doing the conga. Perspective is needed.

His job is important to him and the vast majority of the audience who paid £££ to see him act.

Janiie · 03/01/2024 16:18

'He’s totally entitled to think of himself as the centre of attention because he literally is, and he’s performing the most intense and emotional part of the play. '

Yes yes in which case he should've thought of all those who had paid for tickets and were heavily invested in his lines and carried on. Fine to have a moan after but to sulk and strop and actually stop the show is beyond arrogant.

Janiie · 03/01/2024 16:20

BIossomtoes · 03/01/2024 16:02

His job is important to him and the vast majority of the audience who paid £££ to see him act.

Yep so the show really should've gone on. I hope they issued refunds for him spoiling it.

BIossomtoes · 03/01/2024 16:21

It’s not arrogant at all. It’s entirely what that ignorant philistine deserved.

Abracadabra12345 · 03/01/2024 16:27

@Janiie You've got to be a troll getting a rise out of people, and doing it very well I might say. I can't believe that you really think these things 😁

Abracadabra12345 · 03/01/2024 16:28

"Yep so the show really should've gone on. I hope they issued refunds for him spoiling it."

You are so funny! 😄😄😄

Nanny0gg · 03/01/2024 16:43

Maicon · 03/01/2024 11:06

If a trainer told senior managers off in a passive aggressive way for checking their phones they'd never be back. They have no back-up and do need to be available.

How do they go on holiday then?

PegasusReturns · 03/01/2024 16:45

There are some absolutely insane comments on this thread Grin

I am a professional adult who is capable of making appropriate choices around prioritisation. Sometimes that will include checking my email or stepping out of a training course, or conference or meeting to deal with something more pressing.

if as a consequence of doing so I was subjected to PA sniping or -ludicrously- told not not return, damn right I’d complain/decline to use the service provider again.

fortunately it’s been years since I’ve had to deal with such childishness, I honestly thought such behaviours had died out.

Nanny0gg · 03/01/2024 16:46

PegasusReturns · 03/01/2024 16:45

There are some absolutely insane comments on this thread Grin

I am a professional adult who is capable of making appropriate choices around prioritisation. Sometimes that will include checking my email or stepping out of a training course, or conference or meeting to deal with something more pressing.

if as a consequence of doing so I was subjected to PA sniping or -ludicrously- told not not return, damn right I’d complain/decline to use the service provider again.

fortunately it’s been years since I’ve had to deal with such childishness, I honestly thought such behaviours had died out.

So the trainer has to put up with people disrupting their course?