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Etiquette about electric cars- views??

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AWanderingMinstrel · 28/12/2023 20:53

First thread, long term user. Just interested in views.
Given that more people are buying electric cars , what do you think will become the correct etiquette for charging when visitors come to your house?
Given that if someone comes to visit me in a petrol car, I don’t pay for their petrol to visit me ( should they need to fill up) what do you think is the right approach if someone arrives in an electric car to your home ( possibly staying overnight) has no more charge , and then charges their car enough to get home using your electricity??
AIBU- to not allow people to charge, you are not responsible for their costs to visit you
AINBU- visitors are coming to see you, their car needs charging, it’s convenient for them to charge during their visit to you, you bear the cost of their travel

OP posts:
CurlewKate · 30/12/2023 13:25

I would expect someone to offer-but I would refuse.
I suppose it's not absolutely new etiquette- I wonder what people did about stabling horses?

Brumbies · 30/12/2023 14:02

@zaazaazoo

So allow extra time for charging.

bellac11
I think this is a bit of a cheek to be honest. Why dont they fill up at service chargers, just in the same way you would with petrol?

Because it takes far longer to charge than to fill a tank with petrol.

DdraigGoch · 30/12/2023 14:25

HappiestSleeping · 30/12/2023 10:29

I am with British Gas, they only offer a time of use tariff for electric car users, or one other which is reduced rate at certain times on a Sunday.

Also, I've had two failed appointments for a smart meter where I had to take aa day off each time for which I don't get paid. They let me down both times on the day of the appointment. I gave up after that as I can't afford the loss of earnings.

I'm not meaning to be argumentative, just to point out that it isn't always as simple. My tariff suits my needs, and I don't intend to change it for the benefit of the odd visitor who happens to have an electric car. Per my previous post, I only know one, and they live two doors down with their own charge point, so unlikely to ever need to charge at my house.

On that score I can recommend Octopus' customer service.

Not that it will ever be practical to charge an electric car at my home anyway, the nearest parking is on the other side of the street and probably occupied anyway. I once had to park all the way down the bottom of the hill, this village wasn't designed for cars full stop. That's why I got rid of the damned thing and started cycling to work instead.

MrsAvocet · 30/12/2023 14:57

You don't even really need to leave a lot of extra time for charging. Ok, I know Mumsnet is populated by people who never need to eat or drink on a journey,have bladders of steel and co drivers with whom they do Le Mans style changeovers and thus never need to stop for more than 30 seconds no matter how long their journey, but for us mere mortals who do like a snack, a rest and a wee from time to time, you can generally charge when you're stopped anyway.
We did a roughly 400 mile round trip to relatives yesterday. We charged for maybe 20 mins on the way down whilst I got a coffee and about 10 mins on the way back during a toilet stop. If you ignore the 30 seconds or so spent plugging and unplugging the charger, charging added absolutely zero journey time as we would have made both those stops anyway.
Yes, it can take quite a long time to charge a completely empty battery to full depending on the car and the charger but the chances of ever needing to do that mid journey are incredibly small. You do need to change your mindset somewhat as you generally don't want to get yourself into the situation where you need to do the equivalent of filling up a full tank of petrol, unless you're doing it at home on your own cheap rate electricity, but it's perfectly possible to travel long distances in an EV without needing to devote a lot of time to charging. We do the vast majority of our charging when we are doing something else, or asleep, it's not like you have to stand there holding the charging lead in! It's best for most batteries to be kept between 20% and 80% charged most of the time anyway, you don't have to wait til it's empty before you recharge. You just need to think a bit differently to when you're driving an ICE vehicle.
Our other car is diesel and I have got so accustomed to the EV now that it's going to the petrol station that I view as an inconvenience, not charging the EV.

ANightmareBeforeChristmas · 30/12/2023 15:13

Mumsnet is populated by people who never need to eat or drink on a journey,have bladders of steel and co drivers with whom they do Le Mans style changeovers and thus never need to stop for more than 30 seconds no matter how long their journey

😂

StillWantingADog · 30/12/2023 16:46

zaazaazoo · 30/12/2023 13:14

Because it takes far longer to charge than to fill a tank with petrol.

Also it’s far more efficient (and usually cheaper) and better for the car, to charge more slowly, say overnight. You CAN rapid charge a powerful EV in 10-20 minutes but do it all the time and you’ll suffer some battery degradation.

StillWantingADog · 30/12/2023 16:49

ANightmareBeforeChristmas · 30/12/2023 12:23

I'd be more worried about the security risk of having to trail a plug out of the window, since we don't have an outdoor one, than the cost. I'd also worry it might short if it rained. I think I'd say they could charge during the day but not overnight. I wouldn't ask for costs as a one off but I would for any frequent visitors. No one I know on visiting terms has an EV though.

The rain thing is not a thing. I get why you might think it’s a concern but, honestly, it isn’t.

security is a valid concern though, depending on where you live. We have outdoor power sockets but appreciate not everyone will.

facep · 30/12/2023 19:24

Nobody has ever asked but we have an electric charger at home and would happily let guests use it. I say that from the privileged position of not worrying (excessively) about bills.

AdobeWanKenobi · 31/12/2023 11:39

Backtomyoldname · 30/12/2023 12:09

This reminded me of something......

The quote, rating etc is using a mains socket charger, very slow ie overnight in a smaller capacity car. (sometimes called a Granny Charger) A day+ for a bigger batteried car that is nearly flat.

2.4 Kw is fine out of a socket. It's what a kettle uses, less than a 3 bar radiator. It's 10 amps. But for a prolonged period......

If the plug and/or socket is dirty it can get very hot. Ours has overheated an external socket to the point of it needing to be replaced. Keep your plug clean, quiet WD40 into the socket and pull the plug in and out a few times.

I’m really hoping that’s a typo there because WD40 is flammable and should never come into contact with electrical sockets.

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