The Home Secretary "jokes" about spiking his wifes drink with Rohypnol

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"James Cleverly has apologised for joking about spiking his wife’s drink with a date rape drug in comments made at a Downing Street reception.
The home secretary’s remarks came just hours after the Home Office announced plans to crack down on spiking, when someone puts drugs into another person’s drink or directly into their body without their knowledge or consent.

Cleverly told female guests at the reception that “a little bit of Rohypnol in her drink every night” was “not really illegal if it’s only a little bit”, the Sunday Mirror reported.
He also laughed that the secret to a long marriage was ensuring your spouse was “someone who is always mildly sedated so she can never realise there are better men out there”."

So much to say about this

Oh I don't think it was deliberate at all. I really don't imagine there was any calculation behind it – he didn't expect it to be reported.

I think he just said what naturally came into his mind. And this was it.

I think he just said what naturally came into his mind. And this was it.

It must have been lonely.

I think he just said what naturally came into his mind. And this was it.

And therein lies the problem. He can apologise till he's blue in the face now but it is obvious he thinks he can crack jokes about spiking and date rape. No one can disagree with that. So that is what he thinks of his 'initiative' to protect women. A joke.

It was a function for journalists. Of course he knew it would be reported. I believe the PM was also in attendance.
These Tories may seem stupid / incompetent (and they are in the context of the national interest) but its only because they are operating on a completely different level - one of self interest. The rules they need to follow are different and they no longer care how it looks.

Of course he knew it would be reported.

Normally at those functions there’s a “what’s said behind closed doors stays behind closed doors” gentleman’s agreement.

It does beg the question of what has been said at previous events of that type and not reported.

Ive just seen a picture of this bloke. He's someone completely different to who I thought he was, some elderly old bloke I thought he was?

Who is this bloke?

If he was drunk, I'd guess that's a sackable offence, regardless of what he said.

He lacks judgement... hmm that's trickier. It was undoubtedly ill judged, but was it part of a demonstrable pattern of ill judgement or a one off? I genuinely have no idea - don't know much about the guy.

To be clear, I don't object to people getting sacked for being drunk at work or repeatedly demonstrating a lack of good judgement. That's not what I've argued at all.

Didn't he say recently that a part of the UK was a "Shit hole" in Parliament (then denied even though it was recorded) ... so there is a pattern of bad behaviour/poor judgement.

I do feel though that your willing to accept compelling argument so thats good & rare on here.

Fair play!

There was a very interesting discussion with Cleverly this morning about his use of language. I don't think the word "shit" has been used so many times on Radio 4 in the morning.

Yes i heard that!

He could have a second career as a comedian.

I'm sure his "jokes" go down a storm amongst the sex abusers and rapist MPs in the Tory Party. The only ones who don't actively hate women, don't give a shit about us.

@soupfiend "Who is this bloke?"

He's the Home Secretary. HTH.