What historical event do you think would have changed history if it had turned out differently?

[MaryQueenofKnots]

Here's mine:
What if Edward VI had lived?
What if JFK hadn't been shot?
What if Edward VIII hadn't abdicated?

If Neanderthals hadn’t died out.

They kind of didn't in that Neanderthals and Denisovans and some other unknow species bred with Homo sapiens likely at several different times and locations and today their genetic code can be seen in populations of those areas. They didn't so much die out as merge with the bigger numbers of Homo sapiens incoming to areas they were.

Lilith was formed as an equal with free will but forced to be subservient to a man she didn't even want to be with so she ran away from Eden by choice.

God then demonized her by cursing that children would die until she finally returned to Eden. She refused and never returned so her stubbornness is now blamed in religion for all child deaths when all she wanted was to be left alone. She is often depicted in religious art as eating children.

Then god made Eve, she was created from Adam not clay so she would HAVE to be subservient to the man who she 'owed' life too.

The angel Samael stood up for Lilith's right to equality and freedom and helped her escape and married her. He then returned and also offered Eve the Apple so she could also choose knowledge, equality and freedom too even if it meant leaving Eden.

God was so annoyed by the concept of a woman being equal (and being defied TWICE) that he cast Samael out of heaven (where he fell and became the devil) for helping them and cast Adam & Eve into the wasteland to be punished forever.

They where prisoners of a controlling abuser and they CHOOSE to leave Eden, their abuser then blackmailed and spread rumors to make them the bad guy. When that didn't work he punished humanity for eternity (even killing children) while in a rage.

Its basically like if a woman posted here saying her ex-DH keeps her locked in the house, she tried to run away but he murdered their kids and told everyone she did it so now everyone hates her. He now abuses his new naive wife who he also keeps locked up and when she spoke to someone else and learned she was being abused and there was another life she could have he got so angry he threw her out the house in the cold with nothing and nowhere to go.

Its pretty much the most abhorrently sexist story that ever existed. The fact that for thousands of years Lilith and Eve are still automatically blamed not God for HIS anger says a lot about how sexism is still present.

What lead to Brexit? There was widespread or noisy opposition. We did not get our heads around the philosophy of 'Ever closer and deeper commitments' between countries of EU.
We were suffering from the open-door policy toward immigrants that other countries were not. When PM Cameron asked for an easing of the rules for UK. It was rejected, Merkel was dismissive and criticised David Cameron for even asking. He soon prepared to have a Referendum. He was a Remainer but seemed neutral.
He thought we would have more influence within the EU but he did not say that loudly enough. If he had been High profile as the Remain Leader and with George Osborn and others. It is now thought that he would have won against The Leave side by perhaps 10%.

What if the attempted Viking invasion of Britain shortly before the Battle of Hastings had never happened and Harold, with a fresh army, had defeated William?

A question asked by The Meddling Monk in the first series of Doctor Who. No Norman dictatorship, free peasants not serfs, and a totally different monarchy.

The English language would be the poorer for it.....

What if Noah hadn't built the ark

If there had been no plague/black death we would all be speaking French now. It killed off so many Norman French lawyers, priests etc that they had to start going to the lowly English speaking ones.

Tyndall wasn’t executed by Henry VIII. He left the country having been persecuted under Sir Thomas More. He was later burned at the stake in the Netherlands. Henry and Cromwell (who had previously supported him) could have aided him but were too busy scheming to have Anne Boleyn executed to do anything about it. So he was burned praying that God would ‘open the King of England’s eyes.’

Henry had once been a supporter of Tyndall, because he backed the idea of the Monarch being the head of the church in England instead of the Pope, but turned against him when he criticised his own actions in divorcing Catherine.

But your main point is true. The Reformation would have happened anyway, with or without Henry VIII breaking away from Rome. After all, the Catholic Church was restored under Mary I before the permanent break happened under Elizabeth I.

Of course the Netherlands didn’t exist as a country then. It was in the Low Countries and under the rule of Charles V, who was a fanatical Roman Catholic.

And what if Mary I had successfully borne a child with Philip of Spain?

Or if Elizabeth I had bowed to pressure and got married and had a child?

Either of these scenarios would have meant that the Tudor dynasty would have continued and James I wouldn’t have become King of both England and Scotland.

What if we hadn't come out of the trees and developed walking?

Life would have been very different.

There is a theory that he was infertile, as despite sleeping around. There are no rumours of children. So she'd have ended up as queen eventually.

@LizzieW1969 Thanks for the update on Tyndale's death. Was he Strangled then his body burned. I don't have any books that cover this.

I think for the UK this.

No dynastical ties to France, the preservation of the Anglo Saxon hegemony, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland may never have been invaded and colonised.

My understanding is that Tyndale was burned at the stake, which was the usual penalty for heresy at the time. I haven’t heard anything about his having been strangled first. (I studied church history so I’ve read extensively about the Reformation in the past.)

There’s a chapter on Tyndall in Michael Pye’s latest book - Antwerp - The Glory Years. That’s where he went to publish his bible in English, and where he died, as I recall.

Yes it was Antwerp, that’s correct. I’d forgotten where it was exactly but I remember reading that he died there.

What if Diana hadn’t gone to Paris?

I remember watching a documentary about Tyndal a long time ago

I thought Henry VIII did want him dead so he fled to Flanders

Wasn't Henry like this with anyone who had more radical Christian views or wanted to make the bible available for everyone

According to something I read (Michael pye?) he sent spies after him - but now I can’t remember why. Was he helping him escape? Something to do with going to a tavern and being captured. Sometimes I do see why I bother reading this stuff - in through one ear and out the other. I do remember that it was v interesting - and a horrible way to die. It’s a good book, although quite heavy in parts. I loved the idea of the Antwerp printers who were happy to publish absolutely anything for money - of any faith and none - sort of like a 16th Century internet business.

It was mainly Thomas More who was opposed to him because he saw him as a heretic. (More was a devout Catholic.)

Henry initially liked him, because Anne Boleyn showed him one of his books, in which he opposed the Pope and supported the idea that the King could be the Head of the Church in England instead. Naturally, Henry liked that idea.

But then Tyndall dared to speak out against him for divorcing Catherine. So then yes, Henry did want to kill him!

She would just die later without all the hysterical outpouring.
Only reason why this was such a big thing was that she was currently in news a lot and it was uite a tragic ending. Tragic ending without the news wouldn't cause such wffect, nor would normal ending while in newspapers.
She would just... Die. Like many others before and after.
May sound brutal but that's it.

Very much agree!

While the fuss over Mrs. Simpson seems pretty silly in itself, it's likely that it was an excuse to get rid of a king with divided loyalties and VERY dodgy views.

Labour winning in 2019