To want equality of opportunity to go to the loo?

[HFJ]

Been meaning to drop this complaint in for a while. I am sick of queuing.

So, in most public places architects’ plans for washrooms allocate the same sq footage to men and women. Here’s why I think it’s unfair:

1. Fewer Women’s cubicles compared to how many men can use that urinal trough thing
2. Women have more ‘admin’ from clothing etc so take longer
3. Children have to go to the loo supervised by mothers, including those boys who are really too old but mum keeps dragging them in anyway
4. More likely to dither at the wash basins
5. It seems like Uncle Tom Cobley and his dog need to just stand around waiting in the vicinity, thus preventing swift entries and exits to said loos

Anyone else get irate by this? It’s worse this time of year

I'm a teacher so forget any staff toilets in schools... we rarely get a chance to wee anyway! 😄
Genuinely an element of truth here btw...the amount of times I've gone from 8am - 12pm after drinking a big morning coffee... owwwweeeeee!

And you forgot to list changing tampons/ sanpro. We literally have a third reason to use the loos that doesn't exist for men.

Can we get a minimum of a third more toilets for this. With basins inside the cubicle, because putting in a tampon without washing hands first cannot be healthy.

Men have larger effective bladder capacity than women because they don't have a uterus taking up some of their abdominal space and pressing on the bladder.

If you think men have to wee more often than women, you clearly don't understand the effect of a swollen menstruating uterus on a woman's available bladder volume, never mind the effects of a gravid uterus full of foetus on said bladder.

This was really noticeable at a local theatre when we went to see Sarah millican (though I assume worse than usual as I'm guessing she appeals mostly to women?) a few years ago

I was very tempted just to go into the men's, which had no queue at all, tbh these days I'd probably do just that because no one would say a thing these days I expect!

@Gruffling Indeed. Continuing the teacher comment from above, the amount of times I've bled through my clothing is many!
Don't become a teacher, kids!

I agree though - we need more.

I've noticed this with gym locker rooms as well, it adds a bit of privacy/buffer which I like. Of course now it's moot as everything has been invaded.

Women don't dither - it's derogatory. We might spend longer at the sinks if we want to freshen up hair and makeup

It is dithering. The sinks are for washing your hands. Do that, and go. It is so annoying when someone is blocking the sink to fiddle with their make-up.

No, that isn't what they are doing.

If loo designers put the mirrors elsewhere, as they sometimes do in nightclubs, women could touch up their makeup without blocking the sinks.

Women come under a lot of social pressure to put coloured chemicals on our faces. We are damned as slovenly if we don't wear it, damned as rude if we do wear it and reapply it in public, and now damned as time-wasting sink hoggers if we wear it and reapply it at the sinks. Women can't win: this is a form of misogyny.

You could try, yanno, sitting down and not hovering.

No thanks. Elderly people wouldn't be able to get down to them.

Don't hover. The reason why there's wee on the seat is because of idiots hovering.

If you don't want to sit on a seat that someone else has sat on (what do you think will even happen from that?) then take dettol wipes to wipe the seat with and put them in the san bin when you're done.

This is ridiculous. Why are only women taking kids to the loo and changing nappies? and apparently only women washing their hands too.

this reads like a list of what the wife does as ‘mental loads’ vs the husband in a moaning thread. It’s amazing how many extra tasks can be added in or ignored to suit your arguments.

find better men who take their kids to the loo/change nappies and wash their hands.