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To think the British way of saying I couldn’t care less vs the American way of saying I could care less makes much more sense?

56 replies

Eaglemom · 21/12/2023 00:01

the title explains my gripe! When I hear it in films it gets my goat

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FantaBanane · 21/12/2023 00:54

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/12/2023 00:46

Ok… TV and podcasts are totally the bastion of truth and realism 😂

Sorry all …carry on with th the American bashing. I won’t interrupt again.

Also - American bashing? I’m dual nationality. My kids are American. I’m not bashing. Lots of things are silly there and here and everywhere. Language is interesting.

Can I share my favourite American phrase? A ‘flat tire’ for accidentally knocking the back of someone’s shoe off.

FantaBanane · 21/12/2023 00:55

MissConductUS · 21/12/2023 00:53

Perhaps. I’m a New Yorker and almost never hear it here.

Oh, interesting! When you think about the sheer scale of the US, I guess it’s just another variation!

MarmitePizza · 21/12/2023 01:03

On the face of it, no, it doesn’t make sense. But really it just means - I COULD care less, but hardly any less. (As far as I interpret it anyway!)

thinslicedham · 21/12/2023 01:11

Yeah, I agree with those saying that anyone saying "could care less" is wrong. It's not the correct expression in America, either, though some people can't seem to get it right. Same as "could of" instead of "could've".

poetryandwine · 21/12/2023 01:19

I lived in American university towns and neighbourhoods before moving to the UK. That’s when I learnt idiomatic English (or American), and I also never, or seldom, heard ‘I could care less.’

A fair proportion of our students (Russell Group university) have been using the phrase during the last few years. I notice because it sounds so strange. My hair stylist does, too.

HolidayAddict23 · 21/12/2023 07:19

Yes, it grates on me too but then again so does a lot of things about Americans!

GreyhpundGirl · 21/12/2023 07:46

BirthdayPartyTraditions · 21/12/2023 00:25

@KissTheRains "Couldn't give a rodents rectum" ?? 🤣🤣🤣 I'm not English and I've definitely not heard this one.

It's a different way of saying I couldn't give rat's arse which is a pretty common phrase.

Stresa22 · 21/12/2023 07:57

HolidayAddict23 · Today 07:19

Yes, it grates on me too but then again so does a lot of things about Americans!

Right back at you!

OchonAgusOchonOh · 21/12/2023 08:52

Trenda · 21/12/2023 00:50

I heard an American actor explain that it's only half of the sentence. It is understood by most as,
I could care less ....but i cant be bothered.

That's interesting. It makes sense in that case

Eleganz · 21/12/2023 08:56

The Americans are simply wrong. The phrase is there to indicate your utter disinterest in whatever it is you are commenting hence indicating that you are unable to "care less" about the topic. If you "could care less" about it then you have some care for whatever it is and therefore or not utterly disinterested. I wonder if this is a similar phenomenon as when people collectively mishear lyrics in songs.

KimberleyClark · 21/12/2023 09:01

FantaBanane · 21/12/2023 00:49

Americans say it, I lived there for years. I don’t have much of an opinion on it either way, but it’s a commonplace phrase there. Hardly a conspiracy theory 🙂

I also see it a fair bit in American fiction.

squaahedalmondcroissant · 21/12/2023 09:15

Trenda · 21/12/2023 00:50

I heard an American actor explain that it's only half of the sentence. It is understood by most as,
I could care less ....but i cant be bothered.

Yeah..it still doesn't make sense even with this bit added 😂

You don't have to 'try' to care less, you just do. So saying you can't be bothered to care less still doesn't make sense because it still implies you do care a bit.

MissConductUS · 21/12/2023 09:18

HolidayAddict23 · 21/12/2023 07:19

Yes, it grates on me too but then again so does a lot of things about Americans!

It sounds to me like a case of lost empire syndrome. 😃

Sartre · 21/12/2023 09:18

Some Americanisms make more sense to me, sidewalk makes more sense than pavement for example. This one really irritates me too though.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 21/12/2023 09:20

squaahedalmondcroissant · 21/12/2023 09:15

Yeah..it still doesn't make sense even with this bit added 😂

You don't have to 'try' to care less, you just do. So saying you can't be bothered to care less still doesn't make sense because it still implies you do care a bit.

It's humour...

KVick · 21/12/2023 10:07

You are 100% correct: the expression is "I could not care less" (i.e., it is not possible for me to care any less [about this issue] than I already do...) And I'm American. So if you're hearing anyone - American or otherwise - saying "I could care less;" they're just saying it wrong, probably because they've grown accustomed to hearing it and saying it that way. But it also irks me every time I hear someone say, "I could care less."

AppleChristsBirthdayMacchiato · 21/12/2023 10:10

"I could care less" is sarcasm, "I couldn't care less" is straightforward and literal.

So many people don't understand what sarcasm is!

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 21/12/2023 10:12

AppleChristsBirthdayMacchiato · 21/12/2023 10:10

"I could care less" is sarcasm, "I couldn't care less" is straightforward and literal.

So many people don't understand what sarcasm is!

I didn't have the USA down as the home of sarcastic humo(u)r (with a few notable exceptions) - you learn something new every day.

scalt · 21/12/2023 10:15

I've never heard "I could care less." I thought the Americans just said "shucks" to mean the same thing.

irisgg7 · 21/12/2023 10:21

Not as annoying as.
"needs used up"

DappledThings · 21/12/2023 10:34

I've been watching The West Wing for the 5th time but this time alongside the West Wing Weekly podcast. One of the actors from it who co-hosts the podcast picked up on one of the other characters saying "I could care less" and how annoying it is, especially as said character is a professional speechwriter and usually meticulous in the accurate and effective use of words.

So that was one American annoyed with other American writers for giving an American character lines that included a phrase spoken incorrectly.

OnSilverStars · 21/12/2023 10:52

It's "I couldn't care less" in America too! Anyone you hear saying to wrong is just an idiot. It's like saying irregardless

OchonAgusOchonOh · 21/12/2023 11:04

irisgg7 · 21/12/2023 10:21

Not as annoying as.
"needs used up"

Or needs gone.

Or I was sat/stood.

fingerguns · 21/12/2023 11:15

My American DH used to say this. I called him out on it every time he said it, and now he says it properly 😎

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