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AIBU?

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To run for the hills?

72 replies

Anawana · 20/12/2023 09:47

I recently posted about my boyfriend and many people told me to RUN. Someone suggested though that I might be contributing to issues. I want to give more objective background in case I wasn't fair and please let me know if AIBU to still want to run for the hills?

My partner and I are in our 30s and together for 10 months. We met online shortly after my divorce and it started off as a hookup. Quite quickly it turned into something serious. There were people saying we're rushing but with early menopause history in my family I do want to get married and have 2 kids before I'm too old. My last marriage ended as my ex came out as asexual and also changed his mind about wanting kids so I do feel shortchanged.

I mentioned my partner was deceitful in a few instances. Here's more on that. He only sent me a very old photo when we met and he didn't look anything like it in person. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he is struggling with ED and is embarrassed about his weight gain and I understand.

He also lied to me about where he lives. He even faked a house move. When I asked him why and he came up with an excuse it didn't ring true. His mum used to lash out to him physically whenever she thought he lied and I grew up with a similar person so I understand that he lied to me initially for one reason or other and couldn't back out.

He still lives in the house he bought with his ex. She moved out over a year ago and stopped paying mortgage. It put financial strain on him and the house is on sale for over a year now. I do know the house is on the market for a fact. The reason it isn't selling is that they paid too much for it 3 years ago now the price dropped so they can't sell without tapping into negative equity which ex refuses.

They got an offer 20k under the original purchase price. He asked me what to do as ex said she won't cover any deficit. I told him to make a counter offer considering the biggest hit he's willing to take alone. He said 5k under the original price. Once the house is sold he was going to have the same amount of deposit as I saved up. He was worried he'd now have less and I told him I would cover that 5k because he was willing to take the hit for us and it was the least I could do!

A couple of days later we met and he told me that he 'didn't hear back from the couple'. The next day we met his mum and she asked about it. He goes 'oh they offered 20k less than the original purchase price so I said no thanks'. So he didn't even counter their offer. I asked him afterwards and he said that he's really stressed and can't keep me in the loop with everything. He also said that now he's having to worry about our future together as well and doesn't feel complete autonomy over the decisions regarding the house.

My lease is up in 3 months. He wants me to move into that house. This is because I told him that I wanted us to be married before we had kids and he told me he wanted us to live together before we got married. As we don't know when the house will sell and it's taking ages he suggested I move in. Initially told me he wouldn't charge me rent (I'd never be OK with this and pay but never told him) but he then said he's struggling financially and I offered to pay rent.

I have enough deposit saved up to buy a house on my own. If I did that though he'd break up with me as he does want to start a family with me. This part is a guess but for me to buy a house I want I need to move to a cheaper area at least 3+ hour drive away. He did ask me not to move when we first met when I told him it was one of my potential plans early on. We both wouldn't want a long distance.

This is everything in all clarity. Do let me know your thoughts. Thank you.

OP posts:
Torganer · 20/12/2023 09:49

Didn’t you post about this before? Personally he doesn’t sound like someone I’d want to have children with, but it’s up to you, you’re the one who will have to live with him.

CruCru · 20/12/2023 09:51

Honestly? I think that he isn’t at a stage where he can sensibly have you move in or get married to you. He needs to sell his house and cut all ties with his ex.

LittleGreenDragons · 20/12/2023 09:55

I recently posted about my boyfriend and many people told me to RUN. Someone suggested though that I might be contributing to issues. I want to give more objective background in case I wasn't fair and please let me know if AIBU to still want to run for the hills?

many people told me to RUN.
^^ I stick by this. He is a LIAR. Liars don't suddenly stop lying because of the love of a good woman. Liars increase the lies until their partner doesn't know what is truth or lies. There is no trust, therefore no relationship.

FUCKING RUN!

Aquamarine1029 · 20/12/2023 09:56

Come on now, op. What on earth are you still doing with him? The foundation of your relationship is built on half truths, full-on lies and loads of bullshit. Why are you doing this to yourself? This relationship is fucking doomed.

olderbutwiser · 20/12/2023 09:56

Blimey, not much romance here. It all seems to be negotiations about arrangements - who has what money, where you live, etc etc. Do you actually like him and want to be with him, or do you just want to be married and to have a father for your children?

And why are you asking a bunch of internet strangers for their opinion - especially when it’s been given already.

Sheryl Sandberg said that the single most important decision you will make in your life is who the father of your children will be. She is very very right in this. He has massive issues in many areas - defensive dishonesty, violent upbringing, ED and weight/self-care problems.

I would be lacing up my running shoes, especially if what I was looking for was someone to share my life and love and children with.

Banditdog · 20/12/2023 09:58

I am maybe missing the backstory from your previous thread, but I don’t really understand why you would run for the hills because somebody is having trouble selling a house? 🤷‍♀️. I would not be particularly worried about the conversation with his mother either, perhaps he didn’t want to go into all the back and forth on it.

He needs to sell the house or see if he can buy the ex out at least and then he has some autonomy over it in the future. In the meantime, as your oases is coming up and assuming all else is well in the relationship and the house is in a suitable location, I don’t really see the problem in moving into the house whilst he continues to try and sell it.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 20/12/2023 10:02

Oh, God, stop posting and start running.

mewkins · 20/12/2023 10:03

I read the other thread. Still run. You are rushing this because you want kids but you would STILL be better off having a child on your own than with someone who lies so easily. He also seems to see you as the answer to his money situation. You don't really know each other at this point but what you do know of him is his aversion to the truth. Leave now while there would be minimal disruption to your life.

Tinkerbyebye · 20/12/2023 10:03

Do you think people are going to change thier advice? Is that why you are really posting?

just leave

TheCurlyKnobhead · 20/12/2023 10:04

How many times are you going to post the same thing? You were given excellent advice on your previous thread(s), you obviously haven't taken any of it on board and are going to stay with this waste of skin.

It's been 10 months FFS

GilesRupert · 20/12/2023 10:06

It sounds like you are desperate for children and are trying to convince yourself that he's a suitable father. I'm not criticising you, I understand as I have been there but luckily I came to my senses and got the hell out. You've only been together 10 months and he's already told multiple lies. Run for your life.

TheCurlyKnobhead · 20/12/2023 10:06

Banditdog · 20/12/2023 09:58

I am maybe missing the backstory from your previous thread, but I don’t really understand why you would run for the hills because somebody is having trouble selling a house? 🤷‍♀️. I would not be particularly worried about the conversation with his mother either, perhaps he didn’t want to go into all the back and forth on it.

He needs to sell the house or see if he can buy the ex out at least and then he has some autonomy over it in the future. In the meantime, as your oases is coming up and assuming all else is well in the relationship and the house is in a suitable location, I don’t really see the problem in moving into the house whilst he continues to try and sell it.

Because he's a compulsive liar?

ArchetypalBusyMum · 20/12/2023 10:10

Don't let your awareness of the sands of time cloud your judgement. Just because he's got sperm doesn't mean you want it.
If you have kids with him your life tied to this person will suddenly look like a very very very long time indeed and not the nice raise a family together kind, more the endless head fuck kind, with the added complication of limitations from needing to prioritise your kids.
Life isn't scripted sadly, so you can't control things much as we might wish we could.
All you can do is pounce on good opportunities and dodge bullets.
This is not a pounce situation.

Banditdog · 20/12/2023 10:11

TheCurlyKnobhead · 20/12/2023 10:06

Because he's a compulsive liar?

The only mention of a lie in OPs post was the conversation with his mother and as I said, to me it sounded like he didn’t want to go over the details with his mother.

But I agree that if he’s a liar then it is reason to run, but I was commenting on what I read.

Menomeno · 20/12/2023 10:12

You know you can buy sperm from a donor, and buy a house and live where you like without all this bullshit?

disappearingfish · 20/12/2023 10:13

Yep, RUN!

The deceit, the ED, the complications with his ex.

Neither of you sound ready for a relationship.

ManateeFair · 20/12/2023 10:17

This again? This is the third post of yours about this now.

Your additional clarity changes nothing. You would still be insane to carry on a relationship with this man. He is a serial liar. It doesn't matter why he lied - his worries about his weight etc are immaterial. He still lied and he's clearly continuing to lie.

You have been together LESS THAN A YEAR and there are already multiple issues. Fucking grow a pair and end it.

AgnesX · 20/12/2023 10:17

I vaguely remember this....10 months in and all this drama? all the fibs and fantasy from him would turn me right off.

You're letting desperation cloud your judgement. Just slow everything right down at the very least.

JustAGirlScotland · 20/12/2023 10:20

You seriously need to be having a word with yourself for even considering having a child with this man.

Raise your bar for potential fathers (to your yet unborn children) DRAMATICALLY!

CalistoNoSolo · 20/12/2023 10:20

Why are you tying yourself in knots trying to excuse your boyfriend's shitty lying behaviour?

WhistPie · 20/12/2023 10:21

Your absolute desperation for children is driving you to make a totally illogical decision. You'll be on here in 5-10 years time asking how to get out of the relationship & protect your children if you don't run now.

MonsteraMama · 20/12/2023 10:22

Are you just going to keep rewording and reposting this until people tell you "oh yes, he sounds perfect, definitely marry and have children with him!"?

I don't understand why you need multiple threads full of people telling you to leave. If you want to leave just leave. Starting to think you don't want to leave at all.

I stand by what I said on your last thread about this guy - don't let desperation for marriage and children overrule your common sense and standards. He's lied to you and deceived you, what, three times? In just ten months? Raise your bar!

Luckingfovely · 20/12/2023 10:23

Oh FFS stop wasting your time and just get away from him.

You need to grow a pair and grow up. I wouldn't touch this man if he were the last one on earth - and neither would anyone else with any sense at all.

GreenLight23 · 20/12/2023 10:23

I remember all that from your previous thread. I don’t think he is the right person for you and I don’t think you can trust him.

Calamitousness · 20/12/2023 10:24

Run fast. Run hard. Do. Not. Stop.

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