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To run for the hills?

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Anawana · 20/12/2023 09:47

I recently posted about my boyfriend and many people told me to RUN. Someone suggested though that I might be contributing to issues. I want to give more objective background in case I wasn't fair and please let me know if AIBU to still want to run for the hills?

My partner and I are in our 30s and together for 10 months. We met online shortly after my divorce and it started off as a hookup. Quite quickly it turned into something serious. There were people saying we're rushing but with early menopause history in my family I do want to get married and have 2 kids before I'm too old. My last marriage ended as my ex came out as asexual and also changed his mind about wanting kids so I do feel shortchanged.

I mentioned my partner was deceitful in a few instances. Here's more on that. He only sent me a very old photo when we met and he didn't look anything like it in person. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he is struggling with ED and is embarrassed about his weight gain and I understand.

He also lied to me about where he lives. He even faked a house move. When I asked him why and he came up with an excuse it didn't ring true. His mum used to lash out to him physically whenever she thought he lied and I grew up with a similar person so I understand that he lied to me initially for one reason or other and couldn't back out.

He still lives in the house he bought with his ex. She moved out over a year ago and stopped paying mortgage. It put financial strain on him and the house is on sale for over a year now. I do know the house is on the market for a fact. The reason it isn't selling is that they paid too much for it 3 years ago now the price dropped so they can't sell without tapping into negative equity which ex refuses.

They got an offer 20k under the original purchase price. He asked me what to do as ex said she won't cover any deficit. I told him to make a counter offer considering the biggest hit he's willing to take alone. He said 5k under the original price. Once the house is sold he was going to have the same amount of deposit as I saved up. He was worried he'd now have less and I told him I would cover that 5k because he was willing to take the hit for us and it was the least I could do!

A couple of days later we met and he told me that he 'didn't hear back from the couple'. The next day we met his mum and she asked about it. He goes 'oh they offered 20k less than the original purchase price so I said no thanks'. So he didn't even counter their offer. I asked him afterwards and he said that he's really stressed and can't keep me in the loop with everything. He also said that now he's having to worry about our future together as well and doesn't feel complete autonomy over the decisions regarding the house.

My lease is up in 3 months. He wants me to move into that house. This is because I told him that I wanted us to be married before we had kids and he told me he wanted us to live together before we got married. As we don't know when the house will sell and it's taking ages he suggested I move in. Initially told me he wouldn't charge me rent (I'd never be OK with this and pay but never told him) but he then said he's struggling financially and I offered to pay rent.

I have enough deposit saved up to buy a house on my own. If I did that though he'd break up with me as he does want to start a family with me. This part is a guess but for me to buy a house I want I need to move to a cheaper area at least 3+ hour drive away. He did ask me not to move when we first met when I told him it was one of my potential plans early on. We both wouldn't want a long distance.

This is everything in all clarity. Do let me know your thoughts. Thank you.

OP posts:
toomuchfaff · 20/12/2023 11:05

EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE YOU TYPE IS A RED FLAG.... for one reason or another... you're wearing some helluva rose coloured glasses that make you think this man is a candidate to provide the sperm for your kids pre impending menopause. Remember, the man you choose has to also be a partner AND A FATHER.... Seriously, I'm surprised your womb hasn't detached itself and run away on its own.

Instead of funding this man's house move, paying him rent and god knows what else I'd suggest you pay for some therapy and/or get a sperm donor or even foster/adopt and go it alone vs procreation with this man with all his issues. This man isn't a good candidate as a partner. He definitely isn't a good father, he isn't financially stable, he isn't financially free, he is tied to his ex, he isn't a good character, he isn't a mentally stable individual who can tackle and resolve issues together as a team... He isn't a good candidate as a friend or associate never mind a life partner.

God woman... how much do you need, if there was a dead body in the garden, a freshly dug hole and he came in with a dirty shovel and dirt on his boots you'd probably make the excuse that he was planting the tree for the tree swing that you're planning to do the picture perfect pregnancy announcement.

Carry on with this man at your peril, look forward to a life of hell of varying degrees, make sure to save some money for the kids therapy; you'll need it, well that's not if they don't go NC.

Lovelymoon · 20/12/2023 11:05

LittleGreenDragons · 20/12/2023 09:55

I recently posted about my boyfriend and many people told me to RUN. Someone suggested though that I might be contributing to issues. I want to give more objective background in case I wasn't fair and please let me know if AIBU to still want to run for the hills?

many people told me to RUN.
^^ I stick by this. He is a LIAR. Liars don't suddenly stop lying because of the love of a good woman. Liars increase the lies until their partner doesn't know what is truth or lies. There is no trust, therefore no relationship.

FUCKING RUN!

Thissss

Tooshytoshine · 20/12/2023 11:08

Don't waste your time OP.

He needs to get his ducks in a row before he can start something serious with you. Perhaps you will still be single then or perhaps you won't.

You don't need to run but I would be slowly backing away for some perspective

Fannyfiggs · 20/12/2023 11:11

Oh OP, please buy your own home for you and you alone and never give this up.

The man is a liar and liars can never be trusted.

DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN WITH THIS MAN AND RUN FAST AND FAR AWAY FROM HIM!!

Pugdays · 20/12/2023 11:32

Nah ,to much baggage for me ,dump and buy your house 3 hours away ,and a have nice stressless life without him

Iamtheelephantintheroom · 20/12/2023 11:35

together for 10 months.
That's not long in the grand scheme of things
We met online shortly after my divorce
So not a rebound for you?
I do want to get married and have 2 kids before I'm too old.
It feels like you think you won't meet anyone else/last chance saloon.
He didn't look anything like it in person. He is struggling with ED.
Chancer. Also - how bad is the ED - regarding getting pregnant in the first place?
He also lied to me about where he lives. He even faked a house move.
Lied and doubled down as still enmeshed financially. Not good.
She moved out over a year ago and stopped paying mortgage.
But it has been a year. He should have forced a sale or told her to pay towards.
He was worried he'd now have less and I told him I would cover that 5k.
So you'd give him 5k more, to pay for a house you'd both live in? Ringfence it.
He's really stressed and can't keep me in the loop with everything.
It's called Lying by Omission
He's having to worry about our future together
Doesn't bode well.
He wanted us to live together before we got married.
Try before you buy. Not unreasonable
I offered to pay rent.
You should pay rent - what you are currently paying just not for years and years.
I have enough deposit saved up to buy a house on my own.
Not a bad idea.
If I did that though he'd break up with me.
Or he could move in to yours once he is no longer ensconced with his ex/puts money ringfenced into mortgage and goes on deeds
This part is a guess but for me to buy a house I want I need to move to a cheaper area at least 3+ hour drive away.
Stop guessing. Start looking.
We both wouldn't want a long distance.
Fair enough. Would your deposit be enough to buy out his ex? You then go onto the mortgage/are added on the deeds but the money you gave ex is ring fenced legally against the house, should you split?

BMW6 · 20/12/2023 11:44

You want to have children with a liar who has an ED and no financial stability??

What a wise move.

Aquamarine1029 · 20/12/2023 11:49

There are some op's where it's obvious they are going to march ahead, straight into disaster. All they're really looking for is one person who says "Staying with this man is a GREAT idea!" Sadly, I think that's what we have here

It's like my dad says, there are some people you just can't help, because they won't help themselves.

ArchetypalBusyMum · 20/12/2023 12:02

@Aquamarine1029 agree. This relationship is on seriously shaky ground and op can't see it and is seeking full steam ahead green lights.

Make your bed and lie in it op and then as your life unfolds with this guy as the father to your children, assuming he goes along with it, you can count the ways this wasn't quite the way you envisaged motherhood turning out and muse in whether it was all worth it as you attempt the damage limitation needed.

jeaux90 · 20/12/2023 12:41

"I have enough deposit saved up to buy a house on my own. If I did that though he'd break up with me as he does want to start a family with me"

For the love of god. Buy a house, work on your boundaries and dump this compulsive liar.

Why would YOU want a family with him?

Anawana · 20/12/2023 13:52

Thanks all. No, I wasn't looking for a different answer. But as someone pointed out that the issues might be stemming from me, I thought the problem here might be me rather than him being a liar or whatever else. I guess it IS him. I just have weak boundaries and standards to have let him in and hoped for the best future for us. No time to heal since my divorce and too desperate to become a mother.

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Kwasi · 20/12/2023 14:36

Are you so desperate for kids that you'd marry a compulsive liar? Who wants their kids to have a dad like that? He's not stable enough to be a father and your relationship is far from solid enough to be parents. For the sake of your unborn kids, do not have them with this man.

Olika · 20/12/2023 15:22

I would not plan and build life with this man. Too many lies and hiding things. When you are looking for a life partner it needs to be more straightforward, not this drama and hiding truth. You should go ahead and get your own place and take care of yourself and your financial future as a priority.

Anawana · 20/12/2023 17:56

No, you're quite right. The lies will continue and particularly bad if we have kids. I think in my mind I was trying to justify his reasons - but there's never a good reason to be a compulsive liar I suppose.

OP posts:
NeverDropYourMooncup · 20/12/2023 19:48

Anawana · 20/12/2023 17:56

No, you're quite right. The lies will continue and particularly bad if we have kids. I think in my mind I was trying to justify his reasons - but there's never a good reason to be a compulsive liar I suppose.

The money you'd bring into his life is probably a good reason to lie (for him).

Bet his ex has some stories to tell about his behaviou
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Holidayhell22 · 20/12/2023 20:02

Could you have a child through donor sperm? At least that way you can get better quality.
It sounds like you desperately want someone to have a child with and are crowbarring this man into the role.
I would also recommend that if you do break up and start dating other men, you are more direct and ask for recent photos only. This is what I did.
This man sounds like a compulsive liar.
Do you really want to have a child with him?

Anawana · 20/12/2023 20:02

As I mentioned in my last post, I never experienced any money grabbing/scammy behaviour but some people thought he was playing the long game. I don't know...

His ex was still very into him even almost a year after they broke up (was shown her messages/witnessed their phone calls) so not sure if she's also unstable as I'm now seeing that he's not particularly a catch.

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savethatkitty · 20/12/2023 20:13

Yep, RUN. He's not husband or father material. Don't settle because you think your running out of time. Do not move into his house. In fact, do not cover any shortfalls for him - he only wants you to move in because it will benefit him. No self respecting man would want his partner to take a financial blow for him. Do it once & he will expect you to always bail him out. He is going to drag you down financially.

Run. Now

FictionalCharacter · 20/12/2023 20:22

You’ve said exactly the same here as in your previous thread. Yes, run. He has lied and deceived you repeatedly. You are in a position to buy your own home without him. Just do that.

Notimeforaname · 20/12/2023 20:50

Its the same as your last thread. Hes a liar. And will break up with you if you buy your own property.

Were you also wondering if he was gay or am I confusing that with another thread??

Either way, having a child with a man who lies will only bring misery to yours and the childs life. Dont do that to a baby.

Chickenkeev · 20/12/2023 21:04

Anawana · 20/12/2023 20:02

As I mentioned in my last post, I never experienced any money grabbing/scammy behaviour but some people thought he was playing the long game. I don't know...

His ex was still very into him even almost a year after they broke up (was shown her messages/witnessed their phone calls) so not sure if she's also unstable as I'm now seeing that he's not particularly a catch.

No offence, but you have an answer for everything. You're intent on having kids, you definitely shouldn't have them with this man. Get rid of him asap because like it or not, the clock is ticking.

veganmayo · 20/12/2023 21:14

This time last year you didn’t even know this guy and now you’re talking about taking on the burden of his mortgage issues? Girl. Run.

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