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Whatthefluffing · 2023-12-17T19:25:36+00:00

Car is stationary waiting for traffic to move. Pedestrian walks in front of car, car moves forward, the pedestrian has to bang on the bonnet of the car to get the car to stop, at this point the car has hit (but not dramatically) the pedestrian, the car bonnet is now against pedestrians leg. Car drives off, no word from the driver. Who was in the wrong?

margotrose · 17/12/2023 22:27

Of course the driver was in the wrong.

It doesn't matter how stupid the pedestrian is being, you can't just drive into them!

UndertheCedartree · 17/12/2023 22:29

endlessdarkness · 17/12/2023 22:26

Yes, that's true, but have you never seen a pedestrian suddenly move to cross the road without even looking up to see what is happening with the traffic? I've seen some do such silly and unpredictable things that my first thought is that, one day, someone will hit them without it being their fault.

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Yes, in that case, I see what you mean.

Headshoulderscheeseontoast · 17/12/2023 22:34

I don't know legally, but if the driver didn't see a person directly in front of their car they shouldn't be driving

CipherEcho · 17/12/2023 22:34

Whatthefluffing · 17/12/2023 19:41

Not a crossing but like a junction into a car park. Many people cross there

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do you know if the car driver saw the pedestrian and if they did then why was the car still going forward ?

Catinabeanbag · 17/12/2023 22:35

As my driving instructor once asked, 'When should you give way to pedestrians?"

Always... even if they're being stupid.

greengreengrass25 · 17/12/2023 22:46

Pedestrian was careless but the driver was at fault

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 17/12/2023 23:01

Pedestrian was an idiot for not making eye contact with the driver before stepping out in front of that cargo make sure the driver knew they were there, but liability rests with the driver.

Frabbits · 17/12/2023 23:16

How is this even a question?

Of course it's the driver's fault.

Placeholdername23 · 18/12/2023 00:59

From what i understand. If it was about to pull out into the road then traffic was probably clear. the pedestrian probably appeared from "nowhere" (aka a corner of the road or the inside car side wall..pillar thing) and didn't get a much of a chance be seen. Pedestrian logically should've seen the road and not walked in front of the turned on car.

KrisAkabusi · 18/12/2023 01:04

It's clearly the drivers fault 100%. That does mean that the pedestrian wasn't an idiot though.

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Whatthefluffing · 18/12/2023 09:00

Thanks all, yes I am the stupid pedestrian. My concern was that I had to bang on the bonnet as at that point the car was touching my leg and I’m not even sure they noticed me until that point. The car was on a stop sign to enter a car park, so fully stationary. I wanted opinions on here as to wether to report to the police but as it seems 50/50 I shan’t.

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CroccyWoccy · 18/12/2023 09:16

Whatthefluffing · 18/12/2023 09:00

Thanks all, yes I am the stupid pedestrian. My concern was that I had to bang on the bonnet as at that point the car was touching my leg and I’m not even sure they noticed me until that point. The car was on a stop sign to enter a car park, so fully stationary. I wanted opinions on here as to wether to report to the police but as it seems 50/50 I shan’t.

Unless you dived out in front of the car very suddenly as the driver was already starting to move, the driver is 100% at fault, there's no debate.

However I'd say you'd be completely wasting your time reporting to the police - unless you've got video evidence or something they won't take any action and even then there's no guarantee. Careless driving that doesn't result in any damage or injury is unlikely to be followed up.

Muchof · 18/12/2023 09:17

Whatthefluffing · 18/12/2023 09:00

Thanks all, yes I am the stupid pedestrian. My concern was that I had to bang on the bonnet as at that point the car was touching my leg and I’m not even sure they noticed me until that point. The car was on a stop sign to enter a car park, so fully stationary. I wanted opinions on here as to wether to report to the police but as it seems 50/50 I shan’t.

There is no doubt whatsoever that the driver was at fault. Whilst pedestrians are expected to act responsibility on the roads, there is an over arching hierarchy of road users which places the most vulnerable at the top of the hierarchy and places more responsibility upon those who are more capable of causing damage to others.

Still this is not something I would even think of going to the police about.

Seeline · 18/12/2023 09:18

I'd love to see a plan/Google map if this.
The car was on a stop sign? To enter a car park? Do you mean traffic lights. I've only ever seen stop signs when a side road is joining a main road where eg the main road is much faster, or visibility is very poor etc.
You gave the impression that you crossed in front of a car whilst it was in a queue. That is very different to it being at a Stop sign where the driver will be trying to judge when it is safe to pass a stop sign.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 18/12/2023 09:20

UndertheCedartree · 17/12/2023 19:42

So when is the pedestrian meant to cross?!

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Though doesn’t the new Highway Code give pedestrians the right of way in such situations anyway? As well as it just being courteous

endlessdarkness · 18/12/2023 09:27

If the car was on a stop sign going into a busy road, did you cross against the pedestrian crossing signals, OP? If so, the car is still at fault as they didn't notice a hazard they should have. However, I don't think you have any recourse if you were crossing against signals. Just speculation as I don't know if there were signals, there just are at any similar intersection around my parts.

Frabbits · 18/12/2023 09:31

endlessdarkness · 18/12/2023 09:27

If the car was on a stop sign going into a busy road, did you cross against the pedestrian crossing signals, OP? If so, the car is still at fault as they didn't notice a hazard they should have. However, I don't think you have any recourse if you were crossing against signals. Just speculation as I don't know if there were signals, there just are at any similar intersection around my parts.

It doesn't matter. It's entirely the responsibility of the driver to ensure there is nothing in front of them they can hit when starting off from a stop. Pedestrians will frequently cross in between stationary traffic. I mean, if nobody was really hurt then I wouldn't bother going to the police or anything but there is no doubt who's responsibility this is.

endlessdarkness · 18/12/2023 09:35

Frabbits · 18/12/2023 09:31

It doesn't matter. It's entirely the responsibility of the driver to ensure there is nothing in front of them they can hit when starting off from a stop. Pedestrians will frequently cross in between stationary traffic. I mean, if nobody was really hurt then I wouldn't bother going to the police or anything but there is no doubt who's responsibility this is.

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Which is what I said. I wouldn't bother the police with it either. No-one was actually hurt.

FoodCentre · 18/12/2023 09:49

Driver is a twat. You did nothing wrong.

Anyone who thinks the driver was acting acceptably or that op is in the wrong needs to retake their test and hand in their license.

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Whatthefluffing · 18/12/2023 09:49

Seeline · 18/12/2023 09:18

I'd love to see a plan/Google map if this.
The car was on a stop sign? To enter a car park? Do you mean traffic lights. I've only ever seen stop signs when a side road is joining a main road where eg the main road is much faster, or visibility is very poor etc.
You gave the impression that you crossed in front of a car whilst it was in a queue. That is very different to it being at a Stop sign where the driver will be trying to judge when it is safe to pass a stop sign.

It definitely is a stop sign written on the floor. Essentially you drive straight in with cars coming from your right

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Daisies12 · 18/12/2023 09:51

Car was entirely in the wrong. pedestrians have the legal and moral priority. Drivers can only use the road with a revocable license. I wish you'd filmed this so you can report.

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Whatthefluffing · 18/12/2023 10:53

Daisies12 · 18/12/2023 09:51

Car was entirely in the wrong. pedestrians have the legal and moral priority. Drivers can only use the road with a revocable license. I wish you'd filmed this so you can report.

Not filmed as I’d be at fault but I did get his number plate

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maddening · 18/12/2023 10:59

Car was in the wrong, however as a pedestrian if I am looking to cross with stationery traffic I always make sure the driver has seen me before I cross in front of them. Being in the right is all well and good but I would rather avoid risk of pain and injury by taking additional steps to prevent that - however in the right I am.

jammysocks · 18/12/2023 11:02

I can drive but only drive if I really have to as I hate it!!

Anyway. Where I live which is near a pedestrian of shops that has a car park. My house backs on to this so have to cross this daily to take kids to school. The entrance to the car park is the main path of the road too.

Cars never Indicate, slow down. So you are always double guessing if it is safe to go or not. Or they slow down and because you are used to people not indicating you really don't know If they are going to turn in or not. So you end up standing their like a dummy.

Or you have the driver that let's you go but there's someone leaving who doesn't do the same. Then the one letting you go looks fed up because you didn't risk your life to accept their offer of letting you pass.

It's quite stressful being a pedestrian! Always feel like we are in the way. Hate it when it's raining and no one let's you go. Because they don't want to wait 10 seconds for you to cross the crossing which is 7 Steps long!

Rant over!

Placeholdername23 · 18/12/2023 15:49

Doesn't sound like it's worth hastling the police about, probably just a slip of their foot or a difficult vision, doesn't sound like anyone was hurt. I doubt the driver would've done it out of malicious intent otherwise you probably would've been hurt a lot more. If there's no injury or recording I doubt the police could take your side out of lack of evidence, I mean anyone could fabricate a story like that

Even if there was evidence its not worth yours or the polices time as there was no injury best to just forget about it.