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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

..... to wonder about cousin's wife and alcohol?

26 replies

AnnaSewell · 17/12/2023 17:54

I don't drink, so I am not a good judge of what is 'normal' behaviour around booze. Most people who I spend time with have wine with a meal or the occasional beer, but it doesn't go beyond that sort of ordinary social dinking. There are other non-drinkers in my family

Spouse and I recently drove up to celebrate a very much older relatives birthday and wondered whether to take champagne for the lunch We decided against it. The person whose birthday it was only really likes Bailey's in the evening, and is now tiny and ancient and frail. We ended up bringing various fancy soft drinks instead.

It was a bring and share type lunch at older relative's shared accommodation and as we were all unpacking my husband and I noticed my cousin's wife unloading prosecco. I said, 'Oh lovely shall I put it out with all the other drinks?' To which she replied, 'No it's for me, though you can have a glass if you want.' (Husband and I said no.)

The idea had been that we'd just bring simple stuff and cousin's wife had bought a quiche and salad ingredients. She stayed in the kitchen on her own all the time it was in the oven - cutting up cucumber very very slowly

At lunch she knocked over her plate of food and retreated back to the kitchen for the rest of the meal.

I thought back to various other family lunches that she hosted and remembered she usually does the same thing of keeping herself away from everyone while preparing food and refusing help. She has often seemed an almost incredibly slow cook - taking hours over what are essentially ready meals. When we are eating she will sometimes disappear from the table for long periods and my cousin, who is a very protective partner, will go off to find her.

I had always assumed she was just a not particularly relaxed cook who found hosting stressful

But I'm now wondering if I've just failed to pick up on the fact she has an awkward relationship with booze, and my cousin has been hovering over her/covering up for her - for some time.

What would your reading of the situation be?

OP posts:
Arightoldcarryabag · 17/12/2023 17:58

I'd assume she was an alcoholic but perhaps she just likes her own company and has a drink to calm her nerves as she is highly socially anxious.
I don't think it really matters, I wouldn't be judging either way.

JurassicFantastic · 17/12/2023 18:04

Maybe she has an eating disorder? Or finds social situations difficult? Or maybe she just doesn't like you all. There are any number of possible reasons - alcoholism is only one.

MadamVastra · 17/12/2023 18:10

You think she's an alcoholic because she stays in the kitchen?

CremeBrunette · 17/12/2023 18:13

Rather than alcoholism, I’d say she isn’t comfortable with the family. Either because she’s socially anxious, she’s not a confident cook/hostess or even just because she finds you all a bit irritating. I drink a lot when I see DH’s uncle, it’s because he tells shit jokes constantly and I find it easier not to let out a frustrated sigh if I’m sipping a glass of red. He thinks I have a problem, and has commented, but I roll my eyes and look for an excuse to walk away.

Allthecatseverywhereallatonce · 17/12/2023 18:17

Wow judging much?

mynameiscalypso · 17/12/2023 18:23

I would assume eating disorder before alcoholism myself. But it could be anything really.

Barmecide · 17/12/2023 18:28

Could be a number of things. Disordered eating, fear of eating around other people, anxiety, doesn’t get on with the family, booze.

MaidOfSteel · 17/12/2023 18:54

My first thought was she maybe has an eating problem, even if it's something as simple as not liking to eat in front of others. There are quite a few possibilities. I'd probably try not to make a big thing of it, or make her feel self conscious, just now.

CalistoNoSolo · 17/12/2023 19:55

I'd say you should keep your sanctimonious beak out.

Missingmyusername · 17/12/2023 20:00

Maybe she’s trying to avoid you 🤣 how can you say she’s avoiding helping when the woman is doing the cooking?
How much Prosecco? That’s a strange drink for an alcoholic, so gassy.

DH does all the cooking at Christmas. He’s out the kitchen with a few beers, a good few hours- Christmas breakfast, snacks, dinner what is wrong with that.

Squirrelblanket · 17/12/2023 20:15

Some people don't enjoy those sorts of social occasions, especially with someone else's family. She may feel more comfortable keeping herself busy or finding an excuse to be in another room. It's a bit of a leap to think it means she's an alcoholic.

Ohhelpicantthinkofaname · 17/12/2023 20:22

Hhmmm. Maybe she’s just awkward. Maybe she likes a drink but realises no one else in the family will have more than the occasional one and feels she has to stay out of site if she wants more than one glass for fear of being judged. Maybe she actually has an issue. Whatever the case it’s not really any of your business.

Redglitter · 17/12/2023 20:26

Bit of a leap assuming she's got a drinking problem based on what you've said. Maybe she's socially anxious, maybe she's got something going on in her life that's distracting her.

Was there actually any sign of her drinking.

NannyGythaOgg · 17/12/2023 20:58

That it's not my (or your) business.

AnnaSewell · 18/12/2023 06:55

There are ways in which my cousin and I are close. I am fond of him and his wife. My gut feeling is that he is, in some ways, worried about his and does not feel able to communicate his worries to anyone.

As they taking the main responsibility for two frail elderly people any pressure they feel relating to having to do family stuff is likely to increase. It is partly about geography and partly because they both took retirement

So there is some apprehension about the year ahead. I can, of course, decide that nothing and nobody is my business..

But I do, weirdly, feel a sense of connection with members of my family. What I was picking up on was unhappiness, rather than. 'Oh, I am relaxing over a lovely bottle of prosecco.'

Thanks to those who have offered their thoughts in a positive spirit.

OP posts:
Unescorted · 18/12/2023 07:03

I think you crossed the line from caring cousin to judging cousin when you posted to MN and asked for a collective reading of the situation. We have members of our family with concerning behaviours. MN is the last place you would hear about them.

QueSyrahSyrah · 18/12/2023 07:39

You've decided she's an alcoholic because she fancied a glass or two of Prosecco for herself and didn't want to put the bottle out to be snaffled by the 'non-drinkers'?

I hope you've warmed up before reaching like that, you'll pull a muscle.

margotrose · 18/12/2023 07:41

I'd say it's much more likely she has an eating disorder.

flowerchild2000 · 18/12/2023 07:45

My reading is mind your own damn business and stop posting other folks' business in public forums.

flowerchild2000 · 18/12/2023 07:45

QueSyrahSyrah · 18/12/2023 07:39

You've decided she's an alcoholic because she fancied a glass or two of Prosecco for herself and didn't want to put the bottle out to be snaffled by the 'non-drinkers'?

I hope you've warmed up before reaching like that, you'll pull a muscle.

No no they said she has an awkward relationship with alcohol 😅

QueSyrahSyrah · 18/12/2023 07:50

@flowerchild2000 Which is a polite way of saying 'problem' with booze, surely. Or what would the partner be 'covering up'?

LittleDonkeyOnTheDustyRoad · 18/12/2023 07:54

It could be many things. But beak out beaky, unless you’re asked.

Whataretheodds · 18/12/2023 07:54

If you are concerned that a disproportionate caring burden will fall on your cousin and his wife when by all means discuss it with him and make sure you and the others take their fair share.

Speculating that his wife is an alcoholic is helpful how? I mean, she might be but it's equally plausible that she's uncomfortable with the people there and/or has issues with food, or just wants to be alone.

VyeBrator · 18/12/2023 08:03

Maybe she just gets pissed off with doing so much for her husband's family? He might be protective, but he doesn't sound very hands on.

soonbespringagain · 18/12/2023 08:14

Lots of possible reasons for why she excuses herself from the table, including extreme social anxiety or even a digestive issue and need to be by a loo etc.

Either way (as others have said), I don't think it's anyone else's business, apart from hers and her DH's.