To wonder what the NHS will be like in 10 years?

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What do you think it will be like? Will it be restructured, so it is once again the envy of the world? How can that be done?

I don't live in the UK anymore but family and friends I love are there so it is something I think about. The current state worries me. Healthcare in general worries me to be fair as someone with autoimmune conditions, I have good quality care where I am now but in 10 years time will it be affordable...I don't know.

I think medical care in general is becoming precarious everywhere as the best treatments just get more and more expensive. Then we also have anti-biotic resistance and superbugs to factor in.

How do you think the NHS will fare in the future? What will healthcare in general be like down the line?

@theresnolimits Thats what I would like to see here. Hopefully Wes Steeting gets the message. We cannot keep putting money in with poor results. We need far more accountability and better productivity and value for money.

Sadly,I don't think the NHS will exist in 10 years time.

Good. Needs a massive overhaul.

Youcannotbeseriousreally, yes it's called privatisation.

Sorry to post on multiple threads but imo the current failures are deliberate and ideological.

Absolutely agree

it will have always had to go this way now politicians need to stop thinking about losing voters and work on providing a healthcare system than we should have

A single pensioner in the Netherlands got €1334.94 per month in 2022; pensioner couples got €1828. France is lower at c €1200; Spain it's €2500 and Belgium and Luxembourg the level is around €3000.

The UK state pension is considerably lower at £880, and yet is still nearing the income tax threshold of £12,570, BECAUSE NI contributions were paid during the years of employment to cover health and retirement costs.

It's clear why it was set up this way in 1947, but then, on average, most people only lived three/five years after retiring and medicine couldn't treat many of the conditions that it can now, and everyone takes today's treatments for granted.

DH opened a letter from HMRC today informing him that his state pension (as the higher earner) takes him over the £12570 limit, so his tax code starts negative. Am I alone in thinking that the basic state pension should be the same as the start point for taxation simply because it's the government paying out and then reclaiming the money?

It would be clawed back regardless because we also have pension savings but sending it the long way around the block is just daft.

My DM lives on the old (lower) rate pension and pension credit plus about £400 pa from the NHS pension scheme. Unless these stupid catchpoints in our tax codes are eliminated, it's not long before she will be a tax payer again. For the record, her income is only from the state pension, pension credit + a tiny NHS pension. Plus the winter fuel/heating allowance, council tax at single occupancy and anything else allowable to a person of 89.

It's political Will just be run down as politicians afraid to lose votes

I work in the NHS (I'm a physio). I actually do clinical work, unlike SO many colleagues who are trained physios/OTs/SLTs but wfh doing constant teams calls talking about God knows what. Seriously we have a band 7 physio who wfh and has a role to recruit more teams to take students.....what a criminal waste of money. This goes on through the whole of the NHS. We could literally wipe out this whole layer of people and roles and not notice a single difference.

Is see the private school VAT moaning Tory cunts are out in force again on here wanting the healthcare equivalent of the school system.

Not even the blessed Margaret fucking Thatcher dared touch the underlying concept of the NHS.

It'll still be here in 10 years from now but it'll be the usual mixed bag some bits good, others bits absolutely terrible.

The British public like universal healthcare and generally will not vote for any political party that wants to get rid of it with a user pay or insurance model.

I absolutely applaud your post. I am sick of this phenomenon. Trained nurses are doing everything from ADHD Assessments to online weight management groups, often getting paid at higher bands than actual frontline staff. It is an total disgrace.

Editing to add: these roles are important BUT they don't require a trained nurse. A trained chimpanzee could do many of them ffs!

Exactly this it's ridiculous.

I moved from one trust to another and before I left I requested for all of my hospital notes from when I had cancer. I have a big wad of paperwork securely filed at home as I am terrified of it coming back and nobody having any information on it. I can now throw the paper notes at whoever but really it should be all there on a giant accessible database. All because the NHS is decades behind technology to not be able to share information between hospital trusts.

Every new election there is it's like a new discovery for NHS a discovery of the same old conditions that needed treating in the same old ways .Then there's discoveries of the same old diseases that we thought we had sorted years ago . Polio , Whooping Cough ,Measles and here we ago again .Why do have to keep repeating it all over again .Yes I know the public are at fault for a lot of it . We can't keep passing off the blame of what we cause . We at least need to take some of the blame .