Are things becoming just a little bit shit?

[Bloomsburygirl]

I was wondering if anyone else has started to notice the deteriorating standards in public services and private businesses. I went to London over the weekend, and I was shocked by the filth and litter. I moved to the UK in 2011, and I visited many times before I moved. I do not remember rubbish strewn across streets like it is now. And every place I seem to go gives off a feeling that there simply are not enough staff anymore. Restaurant toilets and public toilets are filthy, it takes an age to be served, and don't get me started on public transport (I read the recent thread on this and agree with every word). It seems to me like the consequences of Brexit/pandemic are really starting to bite, and to be honest, I miss the way it was pre-2016. AIBU, or do others feel the same? And is this the new normal? Disclaimer - I still adore the UK and would never want to live anywhere else!

Just because the UK is more stable than Rwanda, doesn't mean it hasn't got a lot shitter than it used to be

How many times has Rwanda changed its head of government in the last 18months?

Are you sure the UK is more stable?

A little bit? Yes. It's intentional, a result of, amongst other 'managed decline', defunding local authorities over the years, selling off necessary services - trains, water - education, social care and loading more and more demands onto councils whilst cutting the funds available to them. Bye bye GPS. Bye bye dentists. Hello food banks. FOOD BANKS for crying out loud. Hello shortages in hospitals, lack of school places, no carers for your gran, etc. Sickening.

Off topic for this thread but it's often I post this on the Elderly Parents thread - ffs get Lasting Power of Attorney in Health and Welfare for them, otherwise you are not the decision maker for their care when they have got past a certain point, the State is. That's anyone that's not you has more power - hospital consultants, social workers, police, you name it. You won't even be entitled to read their medical notes though any care worker can. Nice.

I mention this because of @newnamethanks post about how things are being degraded - your retired parent costs the state money and is worth more to the state dead than alive. With local council budgets slashed, they will be looking to save wherever they can.

And once again I point out that only the person themselves can set up Power of Attorney.

You can't take it out on someone else's behalf, and the person must be of sound mind and doing it willingly.

If 100% of them voted they'd still have been stuck with a Tory government the older voters wanted. There's a lot more old people than young people so their vote doesn't go far.

Not all ' old people ' vote conservative
I'm pushing 60 now and would never vote for them and never have.

Statistics show people have a tendency to change their vote to the right as they get older, so many of today's younger voters who vote Labour will vote Tory in 20/30 years' time. That's how voting patterns have looked for several decades.

I am sure I read that is not happenning as much as previously in the 30-45 age group?

Was just going to say the same. It used to be true that people shift right but it isn't the same now.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/financial-times-millennials-conservatives-age-b2253902.html

Being constantly shat on and having life choices narrowed by a political party will not inspire anyone to vote for them, more especially as they get older. Old school Conservatives used to inspire ambition and espouse the view that all could be raised up, economically. The current fascist incarnation are divisive, exclusive, and demonstrably not in it for the well being and improvement of the country.

I think that a lot of younger voters will resent them for the whole Brexit fiasco. We've cut their opportunities off at the knees.

I don't know the exact figure but statistics following the last election showed that Labour had a majority among every age group from 18 up to 40-something. Then in the 40s it was more even and late 40s/early 50s upwards it was all Tory as a majority. The Brexit vote was similar.

Bearing in mind Thatcher was more popular with younger voters than older voters. Those young Conservatives of the 80s are now old conservatives.