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Making DD pay for this?

55 replies

TheGuidingSacrifice · 06/12/2023 18:24

My daughter aged 9 is a girlguide – currently a Brownie.

At the end of the term up to Christmas and at the end of the Summer Term, the Brownies and Guides (7 to 14 year olds) go to local shelter accommodation, nursing/care homes or to a charity such as the local food bank – this is instead of a normal meeting for the last week.

They help out; packing boxes at the food bank and loading cars for those who can’t get out, they walk deliveries locally or they make cups of tea and serve up food and fold sheets or similar at homes at Christmas they also do all that and put on a short carol concert. They are always 100% supervised by the leaders and staff at the places they go to but they do not get a badge for this, they do as part of the community.

My DD absolutely loves doing this. They do not have to take a gift but can take a gift of chocolate or flowers to the homes or a donation to the food bank/charity – they can be a monetary gift but can also be food/toiletries or toys if the charity dictates that, which my DD always insists she does – if she didn’t she’d be one of only 2 girls who don’t do it and she’s keen to be like her friends.

I make her pay for this out of her pocket money if she chooses to take something that I don’t already have in my house. I obviously tell her no more than £5 and top up above that amount if she wants something more than that, but I expect her to pay for it. I love that she gets the opportunities to see people less fortunate than us, but I also think she should learn the value of money and show that £5 can make a massive difference to someone’s day.

I pay for her subs of £100 a year with no quibbles, I pay for her to go on camps twice a year, I pay for her two other activities which cost me circa £65 a month. She gets £20 a month pocket money, which is purely for her fun things; magazines, sweets above what I/her dad buy her etc. I buy everything else she needs. I also volunteer regularly at Brownies and her school so she is seeing that I make sacrifices to.

ExH (DDs dad) thinks it’s part of the expense of Brownies/Girlguides and I should factor into my spending on it. He says her pocket money is her money, as I take it out of her CB and DLA (she has some health issues, which again are well accommodated at School and Brownies so I think she should show her leaders she appreciates the effort by making a small sacrifice herself)

I think it’s £10 per year she has to give up out of the £240 she has for herself and that’s hardly anything especially as I pay for her to have such a nice life.

So whose right?

YANBU – Keep making her pay the £10
YABU – ExH is right

In case its relevant ExH doesn’t pay any maintenance (a whole other thread) so all money coming into the house is “mine” from my wages, plus CB and DLA which is of course DDs money.

OP posts:
OneForTheRoadThen · 06/12/2023 18:33

Yes I think YABU. She's 9 and is already doing a lovely, helpful community minded activity. I think this is just an associated cost that you as a parent need to pay.

You need to claim CMS.

TomatoSandwiches · 06/12/2023 18:38

YABU and put in a claim for maintenance.

TheGuidingSacrifice · 06/12/2023 18:40

@OneForTheRoadThen @TomatoSandwiches CMS can't find an income for ExH, so I can't claim maintenance

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OneForTheRoadThen · 06/12/2023 18:42

That's really frustrating OP but I still think YABU. Both mine do Rainbows and Beavers and there are often extra costs for trips and activities. I can't imagine making them pay, it's just an extra expense.

TomatoSandwiches · 06/12/2023 18:42

I'd be quite petty and tell him you don't care for his opinion when he contributes fuck all for his daughter and you will stick with your decision.
I still would find a way to not have her pay though tbh.

TeaKitten · 06/12/2023 18:43

You are taking the money out of benefits that are for her, so I think YABU. DLA is because she has health issues, it shouldn’t be going to charity. The principle of it all is lovely, but actually that money coming out of child benefit and DLA just is not what I would choose to do.

PippyLongTits · 06/12/2023 18:44

How does your daughter feel about it? My son was really proud of himself for making a donation from his own money. If you pay it for her are you taking away an opportunity for her to give something of herself and be proud of her choices?

PinkiOcelot · 06/12/2023 18:44

Well why can’t he put his money where his mouth is and pay it considering he’s not paying anything?!

TellerTuesday · 06/12/2023 18:45

Honestly not something I could imagine making my DD pay for tbh

TheGuidingSacrifice · 06/12/2023 18:45

PippyLongTits · 06/12/2023 18:44

How does your daughter feel about it? My son was really proud of himself for making a donation from his own money. If you pay it for her are you taking away an opportunity for her to give something of herself and be proud of her choices?

@PippyLongTits She doesn't seem to care really about her paying for it, but I'm sure if i offered to give her the money she'd take that as well.

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DatingMum6838 · 06/12/2023 18:48

YABU. My daughter’s school does charity things, donations and food bank stuff pretty much every month and I would never make her pay for these things out of her own money. It should be seen as an expense of the activity and you should be the one paying for it.

Switchingoff · 06/12/2023 18:49

Why not set an example and let her choose something from you up to £x which you pay for and something from herself which she pays for?

Squash24 · 06/12/2023 18:49

I seem to be in the minority here - YANBU. It’s good to teach the value of money and being compassionate towards others. Plus you say she doesn’t seem to mind doing it, so I see no issue. If she was kicking and screaming and you were forcing her to pay then that would be different.

Ffsnotaconference · 06/12/2023 18:50

Yabu. I agree with PP that he could pay for it, if its a problem.

But I still think yabu.

I don't like 'she is lucky I pay for her hobbies so should do this herself' tbh. You are her parent. You can't hold what you choose to pay out against her.

PosteriorPosterity · 06/12/2023 18:50

I disagree with all of the posters above. I think she should be taught about charity and the importance going without luxuries to help those most in need.

The OP is hardly depriving the poor child, £20 a month is a generous pocket money and that age and it’s good to learn that where she has surplus others might benefit.

If she refused to pay out of her money, I’d still probably make the donation but that’s not the case here.

Mumof2teens79 · 06/12/2023 18:51

It's irrelevant....everyone is different. You could give her 200 a month and expect ger to buy her own food and clothes, and presents for her friends. The amounts don't really mean anything as long as you think she has enough to to cover what she needs to.

But I think your attitude of "I pay for her to have a nice life" is unreasonable...what's the alternative for her? She clearly can't pay her own way.....ultimately you are just moving your money around.

Snarfsnarf09 · 06/12/2023 18:51

I personally think YANBU. It’s good for her to give up a little for others. To show what she can do to help them. And for £5/£10 a year it’s really not excessive! If it were more then maybe not but I think it’s a good learning experience for her.

I also think that if Ex Hwants an opinion he needs to contribute towards the activities!!

kshaw · 06/12/2023 18:55

Personally I'd do the opposite. Give a £5 limit and if she wants to spend more than 5 it comes out of her own money. She can still see how far 5 goes

arethereanyleftatall · 06/12/2023 18:57

Yanbu. I think this is a great thing to do. It's very easy to give someone else's money. A far kinder thing to give your own.

Hankunamatata · 06/12/2023 19:00

My first thought was that's a bit mean. Then I had a think a out it and tbh it's not a bad way to teach value of money especially if dd doesn't mind

Topsy44 · 06/12/2023 19:00

I think YABU. Your DD is only 9. The way you say you pay for her Subs with no quibbles really doesn’t sound very nice.

Rudolphtherednoseddog · 06/12/2023 19:04

Well the “your money is for you” attitude hasn’t exactly helped her father be a decent human being has it?!

I would probably split the cost 50:50 with her, but then I don’t give my children anything like £20 a month, so they couldn’t afford £5. But entirely fair to ask her to pay something towards it.

HappyHealthy23 · 06/12/2023 19:07

Squash24 · 06/12/2023 18:49

I seem to be in the minority here - YANBU. It’s good to teach the value of money and being compassionate towards others. Plus you say she doesn’t seem to mind doing it, so I see no issue. If she was kicking and screaming and you were forcing her to pay then that would be different.

I agree with this. I think it's good for children to learn a bit more about the value of money. And I know my Dd feels proud of herself for paying for things herself, so win-win in my book.
It sounds like a lesson that would have been good for your ex to learn as a child too.

arethereanyleftatall · 06/12/2023 19:09

I remember being in London and my then young dd was asking her dad for money for every single beggar. (Are they still called that? Sorry if not). Preened as she received her thank yous. After about 10, her dad told her he would give her five pounds for her, then she could choose whether she gave that fiver or not. A much much harder thing to do. She didn't give any more. I think his was a clever idea, as is yours op.

Lulu1919 · 06/12/2023 19:09

I think it's a good thing....it's only £10 a year she's giving
Giving her that opportunity will help make her into a caring teen and adult .

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