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Feedtheworld1982 · 2023-12-06T15:56:03+00:00

I need some perspective on this. I was in HMV today, and amongst the merchandise, most of which is firmly aimed at children were a selection of mugs saying “fresh out of fucks” and “rock out with your cock out”. These were very much at children’s eye level and I gently pointed this out to a member of staff who just said “ok?”. I messaged HMV and asked them to consider the positioning of the products in store and they responded saying they believe it’s displayed in a responsible fashion. I feel like I’m completely out of touch. If I had DS (under 10) with me I would have been very cross to have him reading that among the Minecraft merch. AIBU to think they could have been put out somewhere else in store?

FreshWinterMorning · 07/12/2023 17:24

StickGirl22 · 07/12/2023 16:36

I think you have too much time on your hands. Maybe get a hobby?

How patronising.

FreshWinterMorning · 07/12/2023 17:24

WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps · 07/12/2023 16:01

🙄

Away from the newspaper censorship Flying Squad…

When I was a kid, god knows how many years ago, we used to go to the seaside. Where ‘saucy’ postcards were everywhere. McGill type cards. No children were corrupted

Little kids won’t understand and won’t be interested. Older kids already know and will have a laugh.

OP, I mean it kindly: grow up.

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'I mean this KINDLY......... grow up.'

KINDLY?!

Why do people do this on here? Say 'I mean this KINDLY,' and then say something rude and derogatory? It's like when people say 'I'm not being nasty or rude but....' and then go on to say something nasty and rude!

There is nothing KIND about what you said. It was rude and condescending ... At least own it, and stop trying to hide behind it. You're just embarrassing yourself.

WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps · 07/12/2023 17:26

FreshWinterMorning · 07/12/2023 17:24

'I mean this KINDLY......... grow up.'

KINDLY?!

Why do people do this on here? Say 'I mean this KINDLY,' and then say something rude and derogatory? It's like when people say 'I'm not being nasty or rude but....' and then go on to say something nasty and rude!

There is nothing KIND about what you said. It was rude and condescending ... At least own it, and stop trying to hide behind it. You're just embarrassing yourself.

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‘Grow up’ isn’t an insult. It’s advice.

Advice that you might want to consider too.

GreyCarpet · 07/12/2023 17:30

I'm sure it's been said but HMV is not a children's shop. If you take your children in there, they may see stuff that isn't aimed at them.

FreshWinterMorning · 07/12/2023 17:34

WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps · 07/12/2023 17:26

‘Grow up’ isn’t an insult. It’s advice.

Advice that you might want to consider too.

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Advice?! 😂

Saying GROW UP! to someone is 'advice?' F me. I have heard it all now. It's condescending and patronising at best, insulting and derogatory at worst.

You keep telling yourself that telling someone to grow up is ADVICE ... 😆

And as for saying it to me. Pathetic, lazy, and unwarranted insult. As I said, you're embarrassing yourself. People who say 'grow up' are usually people who hugely need to do that themselves. So KINDLY, that is something for you to think about eh dear?

TheKeatingFive · 07/12/2023 17:39

HMV are not stocking them for children

Nothing they've said or done suggests that they are excluding any audience when stocking them

Jijithecat · 07/12/2023 17:46

Frequency · 07/12/2023 14:44

I've just asked DD about squishmallows and she confirmed they are definitely not kids' toys. They were marketed on social media for teenagers and "goths", according to DD. Their appeal is that each "creature" has its own back story and social group, which is probably too complex for a younger child to follow, especially as they are "viral" rather than having their own cartoon or movie.

She wouldn't expect a 10yo to even know what a squishmallow was.

Well you'd better tell McDonalds in that case because they were selling them with Happy Meals, which by their very definition are kids meals.
I really don't get why people can't see how putting a few items on a higher shelf could remedy this. My local Sainsburys changes what's displayed in an aisle every other week.
If people want to keep HMV as an adults only shop maybe drop them a line and ask them to move the squishmallows and the sweets out of the windows and you can keep the space to yourselves. At the moment they're sending out some very mixed messages.

ANightingale · 07/12/2023 17:55

2023forme · 07/12/2023 14:56

@Feedtheworld1982 YANBU. I hate all this race to the bottom stuff.

we went out for dinner once and there was a family next to us. The dad had a t shirt on with a picture of a rooster and the words “massive cock” under it (and I thought - yes, you are!) - sitting beside his 3 young DC and wife. I was cringeing inside and truly wanted to give him a shake. I truly could not be with someone who thought that was acceptable.

I’m no pearl clutcher but I do hate the way DC are exposed to more and more adult content/language/humour and those who say it’s not on are somehow pearl clutchers. It’s just not necessary for DC to be exposed to this sort of stuff.

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If there's a picture of a large cockerel with the legend 'massive cock' then interpretation is in the mind of the beholder!

IAmAnIdiot123 · 07/12/2023 17:59

Stanislas · 07/12/2023 13:24

I love all these people telling you not to take children in there. The days of leaving children standing outside a shop waiting obediently for mum or dad have long gone surely about 1950. My two were reading avidly at four and I would have been very disgruntled having that at eye level. I spent years though writing futilely to M&S over sweets at child eye level at the till in our town.

Honestly I would argue the amount of sweets and chocolate at children's eyelevel in shops has more long term damage than a sweary mug. That's why I go to aldi and lidl, their tills don't often have any sweets in the waiting bit.

Frequency · 07/12/2023 17:59

Nothing they've said or done suggests that they are excluding any audience when stocking them

Their stores very much suggest that children are not their intended audience.

Have you ever been inside an HMV @TheKeatingFive?

Anyone who can step more than 2 feet inside an HMV store and think that HMV's intended audience is young children has very questionable parenting. The walls are plastered with gory horror and sci-fi posters. The music played is explicit alternative music with swearing and sexual references. There are cardboard cutouts of anatomically impossibly large-breasted, barely dressed anime characters all over the floor. There are displays full of classic horror memorabilia including replica swords and knives.

It is not a children's shop.

TheKeatingFive · 07/12/2023 18:06

The walls are plastered with gory horror and sci-fi posters. The music played is explicit alternative music with swearing and sexual references. There are cardboard cutouts of anatomically impossibly large-breasted, barely dressed anime characters all over the floor. There are displays full of classic horror memorabilia including replica swords and knives.

I have been to HMV on many occasions. This is a massive exaggeration 😂 as I'm sure you are aware.

It's a film/music/gaming/merch shop. In the past it has sold kids films and books. I don't know anyone who would think it's an inappropriate shop to bring children into. Neither have HMV ever suggested that.

crumblingschools · 07/12/2023 18:09

Our local HMV must be very tame

TheKeatingFive · 07/12/2023 18:13

*Our local HMV must be very tame

That's what I'm thinking 😂

Where are these dens of gore and destruction?

IAmAnIdiot123 · 07/12/2023 18:27

TheKeatingFive · 07/12/2023 18:13

*Our local HMV must be very tame

That's what I'm thinking 😂

Where are these dens of gore and destruction?

Personally I don't take my young children in there because I don't want to have to explain to my son why he can't have a chuck doll or Rick and Morty tshirt. They do often have new game displays which can be quite gory and inappropriate too. It's just not a shop I would take my sons into, if I wanted anything in there I would either shop online or go in when they weren't with me.

gamerchick · 07/12/2023 19:19

Jijithecat · 07/12/2023 17:46

Well you'd better tell McDonalds in that case because they were selling them with Happy Meals, which by their very definition are kids meals.
I really don't get why people can't see how putting a few items on a higher shelf could remedy this. My local Sainsburys changes what's displayed in an aisle every other week.
If people want to keep HMV as an adults only shop maybe drop them a line and ask them to move the squishmallows and the sweets out of the windows and you can keep the space to yourselves. At the moment they're sending out some very mixed messages.

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Or maybe try parenting your kids and try telling them no they can't go in that shop.

Saying no doesn't hurt them.

Jijithecat · 07/12/2023 19:38

I don't recall saying on this thread that I have children nor that I take them into HMV.
In the past HMV definitely wasn't aimed at children. You bought music, tshirts and tickets from them. Once they diversify their range they need to take other factors into consideration, but as we can see on this thread from a previous poster that the store their relative works in would place these items at a higher level, so it can be done.

GladioliandSweetPeas · 07/12/2023 21:32

pictoosh · 07/12/2023 05:17

Agree with @hazandduck - complain about this and encounter similar in the next shop or street.
It's not something I ever worried about and my kids survived. 😀

Nobody is suggesting any children won’t 'survive' but implying that a responsible parent is being precious by being concerned at sexual products being at the SAME HEIGHT AS CHILDREN is just wrong. If it wasn't, dirty mags wouldn't have been put on the TOP SHELF in newsagents.
If they hadn't, you'd still have 'survived' but I'm pretty sure you'd have lost a chunk of your innocence and probably started questioning (or even emanating) what you saw.
It's not woke to not want your children to be exposed to inappropriate sexual material!

Back in the 30s, 40s & even 50s, it was quite acceptable & normal, for the media & tv, once they became commonplace in households, to sexualise children to a very disturbing degree. You only have to research some child actors of that time and what they were put through, to see this for yourself.
I've studied a LOT about 1940s culture both during & after WW2 and the sexualisation of children ran deep in lot more of it than people today realise. Even more so in the 1930s.

My point is, we've come so so far today. The damaging effects of this kind of crap has been seen and proven. Yet here we are.....

GladioliandSweetPeas · 07/12/2023 21:33

@AuntieStella We've had a HMV in my town since 2004? I was in it today