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Neighbour asked us to stop our Christmas lights flashing

477 replies

SuddenlyISee · 05/12/2023 12:16

Outside Christmas lights got put up on Sunday morning going around a couple of the windows at the front of the house (we live end terrace on a close).
We were out till late on Sunday evening so they were only on for probably an hour that day and then I switched them on when I got home from work at about 3:30 yesterday. Within an hour, my opposite neighbour knocked on my door and said that although he really likes the "Christmas cheer", could we not have them flashing all the time as they are disturbing him at night. They are turned off no later than 10pm as that is when we go to bed. There are multiple settings and I can't control that my children keep changing them when I'm not in the room where the plug is. I just feel like I'm going to spend the next few weeks worrying that our lights are offending him and wonder if I should just take them down. The neighbours either side of the neighbour that complained have both got the same lights as us so I have the same view as him, if not more so, and I can't see how it would affect anyone

OP posts:
SuddenlyISee · 05/12/2023 17:28

jannier · 05/12/2023 17:21

Chop your children's hands off....seriously electric devices are not toys and they should not be played with control of your kids ...flashing lights are awful as are blue ones.

Brilliant, thanks for the advice! Maybe they could cut their own hands off with the meat cleavers I have wrapped in their stockings.

OP posts:
Paddleboarder · 05/12/2023 17:28

You can turn them off earlier, it’s dark by half four. It would drive me insane if I had to sleep with flashing lights outside my window. I can’t even have my own lights inside the house on a flashing setting when I’m just watching tv. Your children need to understand that it’s upsetting someone but also why does it matter to them what the lights are doing later in the evening when they can’t even see them?

Onceuponaheartache · 05/12/2023 17:38

SuddenlyISee · 05/12/2023 12:16

Outside Christmas lights got put up on Sunday morning going around a couple of the windows at the front of the house (we live end terrace on a close).
We were out till late on Sunday evening so they were only on for probably an hour that day and then I switched them on when I got home from work at about 3:30 yesterday. Within an hour, my opposite neighbour knocked on my door and said that although he really likes the "Christmas cheer", could we not have them flashing all the time as they are disturbing him at night. They are turned off no later than 10pm as that is when we go to bed. There are multiple settings and I can't control that my children keep changing them when I'm not in the room where the plug is. I just feel like I'm going to spend the next few weeks worrying that our lights are offending him and wonder if I should just take them down. The neighbours either side of the neighbour that complained have both got the same lights as us so I have the same view as him, if not more so, and I can't see how it would affect anyone

Really...you can't see how someone who has epilepsy for example might be massively impacted by your flashing lights?

Discipline your children and teach them not to piss about with lights. You are being massively unreasonable.

Gettingcolder · 05/12/2023 17:38

Flashing lights are migraine inducing so I wouldn't want to be your neighbour. You should either keep them on constant all the time or take them down. Try explaining to your kids that they are causing other people pain and maybe they will stop playing with them.

CheekyLittleElf · 05/12/2023 17:45

Flashing lights are for inside your own home.

  1. They trigger seizures in many people
  2. They trigger migraine in many people
  3. They distract drivers
ButterBastardBeans · 05/12/2023 17:45

It's people like the OP that makes me glad I live in the middle of nowhere.

salamirose · 05/12/2023 17:48

They should be banned. Slow fading is fine. My neighbours have theirs on til 12!

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 05/12/2023 17:51

SuddenlyISee · 05/12/2023 13:38

I am hearing you all and will definitely stop them from blinking from now on. It's the first time I've had lights outside and I hadn't realised it would be such an issue.

To answer a few questions/comments:

  • No, none of his household work shifts and it is their kitchen at the front of their house not their living room.
  • I didn't question why he didn't mention to the neighbours either side of him. It was just for context to make it clear I'm not the only person on the street who has decorated.
  • We have a street lamp outside and there is no way that my lights overpower that.
  • Of course I can control my children.

Of course you can control your kids not it’s just you’re choosing not to.

Basically you think your neighbour is a twat and you should be able to have flashing lights and your kids play with the settings and sod the neighbour. You don’t give a F about your neighbour at all.

SuddenlyISee · 05/12/2023 17:59

@Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain

You've literally requoted me saying that I will change the settings and stop the children from messing with them. Not once have I said anything about how I think my neighbour is a twat and that I should be able to do what I want. Don't put words in my mouth.

OP posts:
salamirose · 05/12/2023 18:02

SuddenlyISee · 05/12/2023 17:59

@Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain

You've literally requoted me saying that I will change the settings and stop the children from messing with them. Not once have I said anything about how I think my neighbour is a twat and that I should be able to do what I want. Don't put words in my mouth.

Some people are just pissed off at their own neighbours and taking it out on you

Baldieheid · 05/12/2023 18:10

OP, if you were my neighbour and you listened to me and stopped the flashing lights, you'd be getting a massive thank you x

m00rfarm · 05/12/2023 18:12

Flashing lights are rubbish - not suitable for putting outside a house where they can intrude on other properties. Why should they have to block out the universe just to avoid your flashing lights! And if you cannot control your children not to fiddle with them, then turn them off.

Evilcold · 05/12/2023 18:14

Ask him what time he wants them to be off and if it is certain days. If it is reasonable e.g. 8 or 9 turn them off or to a fixed setting then. Do they have a dimmer? Many of the LED strings with a timer and settings also have this.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 05/12/2023 18:26

salamirose · 05/12/2023 18:02

Some people are just pissed off at their own neighbours and taking it out on you

@SuddenlyISee Agree with the quoted poster.

For fun in this thread you should mention that that your flashing lights are synced to your gigantic wind chime 🤣

TheOccasionalFag · 05/12/2023 18:28

There are multiple settings and I can't control that my children keep changing them when I'm not in the room where the plug is.

JFC. Statements like this just make me want to throw in the towel as a teacher.
If there was a modicum of authority in your house, your children wouldn't dream of changing them.

No means no.

Get a grip on your children doing what they are told, or you're in for years of pain.

WanderleyWagon · 05/12/2023 18:32

"But she turned them on at 3.30 yesterday. That would be 6.5 hours of flashing lights!"

AND from the beginning of December, i.e basically for a month.
I think your neighbour is being quite reasonable here. Could you put the lights on the timer, so that they come on for a couple of hours at dusk, and then go off?

Catlord · 05/12/2023 18:40

OP thanks for putting a stop to this once you realised the potential issues.

Mikimoto · 05/12/2023 18:41

What up with the kids?!!

Imtootiredtothinkofausername · 05/12/2023 19:25

Wow. I never realised the world of mumsnet had such an objection to some festive lights?! @SuddenlyISee I am genuinely surprised. It is December, less than 3 weeks til Xmas, it would honestly never have occurred to me that anyone would have an issue with flashing lights that are off by 10pm?! I don't put lights up personally but enjoy looking at other people's lights. All the houses on my street have some sort of flashing ensemble (my neighbours next door looks like the outside of Santa's actual grotto!) and whilst not all of it is to my personal tastes, and I am the last person who would ever want to cause issues with neighbours, it is just a bit of festive fun. Plus if people really hate it, they have curtains!

Snowdogsmitten · 05/12/2023 19:32

There are multiple settings and I can't control that my children keep changing them when I'm not in the room where the plug is.

Yes you can.

Meowandthen · 05/12/2023 19:34

Some of us find them irritating and also think you need to manage your own children better.

Snowdogsmitten · 05/12/2023 19:35

How can people stand the seizure-inducing flashing settings? The gentle twinkle one is just about ok but I’ve never understood why anyone would want them to flash violently. I saw a house with a blue set on their tree that was on an aggressive alternating flash. It was like an array of emergency services were in their living room.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 05/12/2023 19:44

SuddenlyISee · 05/12/2023 17:59

@Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain

You've literally requoted me saying that I will change the settings and stop the children from messing with them. Not once have I said anything about how I think my neighbour is a twat and that I should be able to do what I want. Don't put words in my mouth.

@SuddenlyISee I’ve quoted you because it’s clear to me and a few others on this thread that youre changing the settings and stopping the children messing with them but it’s under duress and from the tone of your posts you do seem to think you can do what you want and you cannot control your kids. I am not putting words into your mouth. You seem to come across as very combative on this thread though, so god knows how you come across to your neighbour.

Why did you then mention your other points about him not working shifts, how no other neighbours are affected and there’s a street lamp which your lights don’t overpower, therefore you’re insinuating that your neighbour is being difficult to complain about these lights due to the latter points, but yes you haven’t said he’s being a twat (bet you thought it though!).

I mean you have no idea if he suffers from epilepsy or migraines either.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 05/12/2023 19:46

salamirose · 05/12/2023 18:02

Some people are just pissed off at their own neighbours and taking it out on you

@salamirose are you directing this to me or to @SuddenlyISee ?! Not quite clear here…

easylikeasundaymorn · 05/12/2023 19:46

NotEvenThought · 05/12/2023 14:08

@easylikeasundaymorn
Ha there was a thread from the other pov literally yesterday in which most posters had the opposite opinion - that it was grinchy to object to flashing lights and you should buy blackout curtains if they annoy you. By which I have gathered that a lot of posters on MN will just argue the opposite opinion to the OP for giggles

I'm guessing if you've only just worked this out then you are very new to Mumsnet 😅. Mumsnet is the home of recreational arsey'ness.

I have black out curtains but I'd still find flashing lights extremely irritating. I love normal or twinkling lights though.

I had a neighbour write me a letter about a small mirrored hanging decoration I had in a tree that was about 70ft away from there window. They said the way it caught the light was really annoying and could I please move it. In what I think it quite a novel approach for Mumsnet I went straight out and removed it and didn't give it anymore thought.

haha no been here donkey's years, very used to people just seeming to argue for the sake of it, it's just rare to actually have 2 posts with the opposite POVs at almost exactly the same time to perfectly illustrate it!

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