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Violent night- the film

45 replies

Whatthewhy · 02/12/2023 18:43

I need to know if I'm being very unreasonable here because I'm quite annoyed and surprised at the same time. So tonight, my son (10) received a video from his friend. It was of a film he was watching in his room, violent night its called. The scene was a man slicing another man in the throat, and it was disturbing, to say the least. Am I right in thinking that it's terrible that a 10 year old would be watching this? And should I perhaps speak to the school with concerns about what he's watching. He watches stuff like pennywise, saw, insidious, etc, all the famous horror films. What would you do?

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Ponoka7 · 02/12/2023 19:01

I'd speak to the school. I'd speak to the parents making it clear that he doesn't send anything to your DS again. My DD has had to do that. The child was already known to services and had listening ear going into school. These lads don't stand a chance and it's bloody sad.

Whatthewhy · 02/12/2023 19:08

Ponoka7 · 02/12/2023 19:01

I'd speak to the school. I'd speak to the parents making it clear that he doesn't send anything to your DS again. My DD has had to do that. The child was already known to services and had listening ear going into school. These lads don't stand a chance and it's bloody sad.

I will be speaking with the school on Monday. The kid also has anger issues, and I'm wondering if maybe watching violent films has contributed? I feel so very sad for him. He seems like a good kid

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Iceache · 02/12/2023 19:16

I think YABU to refer to the masterpiece that is ‘It’ as ‘Pennywise’.

My 10 year old has watched It (with us). It is a brilliant film and has only one thread running through it that is unsuitable (domestic abuse) which we skipped.

I’ve no idea of the content of Violent Night tbh although I will watch it as it looks good, but this pearl clutching over horror films as the route to all criminality is ridiculous. I’m not sure how your son received a video, but I’d be looking at how to avoid this happening again - if he has a phone then you need to be smarter about what he has access to really. You can’t parent other children but you can be more clued up on how to control your own’s access to problem content

Sparklesocks · 02/12/2023 19:19

Iceache · 02/12/2023 19:16

I think YABU to refer to the masterpiece that is ‘It’ as ‘Pennywise’.

My 10 year old has watched It (with us). It is a brilliant film and has only one thread running through it that is unsuitable (domestic abuse) which we skipped.

I’ve no idea of the content of Violent Night tbh although I will watch it as it looks good, but this pearl clutching over horror films as the route to all criminality is ridiculous. I’m not sure how your son received a video, but I’d be looking at how to avoid this happening again - if he has a phone then you need to be smarter about what he has access to really. You can’t parent other children but you can be more clued up on how to control your own’s access to problem content

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Sorry I love horror films but in the opening scene of IT Pennywise literally bites off a child’s arm - how is it pearl clutching to not want your kids seeing that??

WiddlinDiddlin · 02/12/2023 19:24

Mm, I've seen both the new It and Violent Night.

Both really good films but certainly not suitable for 10 year olds in any general way ('It' might be ok if watched with parents, for some kids, particularly if you skip certain parts)...

Violent Night is silly and hilarious as well as extremely gory and graphic - way beyond a 10 year olds comprehension of why it's funny and silly though, it references a lot of things they won't be aware of.

Tomelette · 02/12/2023 19:26

Ha, great film!

It's not for kids though.

Desecratedcoconut · 02/12/2023 19:26

Some parents are just a bit shit and let their kids watch anything.

NonPlayerCharacter · 02/12/2023 19:26

It isn't a masterpiece...not the book nor any of the films, and especially not the ridiculous Tim Curry campfest.

But it absolutely is not appropriate for a ten year old. It's hugely irresponsible to allow a child of that age to watch it and it's nothing to do with ridiculous made-up accusations about "routes to criminality". It's to do with extreme graphic violence and horror scenes. If you don't see why you shouldn't let kids watch that then frankly you're not mature enough to be watching it either.

Whatthewhy · 02/12/2023 19:27

Iceache · 02/12/2023 19:16

I think YABU to refer to the masterpiece that is ‘It’ as ‘Pennywise’.

My 10 year old has watched It (with us). It is a brilliant film and has only one thread running through it that is unsuitable (domestic abuse) which we skipped.

I’ve no idea of the content of Violent Night tbh although I will watch it as it looks good, but this pearl clutching over horror films as the route to all criminality is ridiculous. I’m not sure how your son received a video, but I’d be looking at how to avoid this happening again - if he has a phone then you need to be smarter about what he has access to really. You can’t parent other children but you can be more clued up on how to control your own’s access to problem content

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So you're saying it's acceptable for a 10 year old child to watch violent and gory horror films? 🤔 people being sliced and beaten to death is acceptable for a 10 year old to watch?
I regularly monitor my sons phone, which he has had for a couple of months, which was reluctantly bought for him after him nagging me. I don't know why you've turned this around on me 😂 I'm not the one letting my child watch men slice other men in the throat... he's allowed to contact his friends as most 10 year olds do. He also showed me the video immediately because he knew it wasn't ok. Because we have had that conversation about the danger of the Internet. Also, children shouldn't be watching horror movies full stop, even "masterpieces" like pennywise.

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Whatthewhy · 02/12/2023 19:34

NonPlayerCharacter · 02/12/2023 19:26

It isn't a masterpiece...not the book nor any of the films, and especially not the ridiculous Tim Curry campfest.

But it absolutely is not appropriate for a ten year old. It's hugely irresponsible to allow a child of that age to watch it and it's nothing to do with ridiculous made-up accusations about "routes to criminality". It's to do with extreme graphic violence and horror scenes. If you don't see why you shouldn't let kids watch that then frankly you're not mature enough to be watching it either.

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Exactly this

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Fionaville · 02/12/2023 19:51

My 10 year old did a course on special effect makeup, including horror, is really skillful and is really into film making. So is completely unfazed by anything gory. We've watched IT together and a few more horror films (that don't contain sex scenes/nudity)
Every parent is different, with different levels of what's acceptable. Mine aren't allowed to have their phones/ipads in their bedrooms and don't have social media, Tik tok or youtube etc
You know your own child best and what they are equipped to deal with. I don't see what reporting it to school would achieve.

Whatthewhy · 02/12/2023 20:36

Can someone please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not entirely sure, but is it not a safeguarding concern if a child is being exposed to violent content, including horror movies?

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autienotnaughty · 02/12/2023 20:55

Films have classifications for a reason. Children should not be watching horror films wether they seem to like it or not. The content is inappropriate.

Op I'd speak to school. You could speak to parent if you feel comfortable

User1786 · 02/12/2023 21:06

Depends on the child. Pretty much every one I knew growing up watched Freddy and Jason and nobody had any issues then or later. Saying that my 10 DS won’t watch Jurassic park, if we try to put it on he just leaves the room!

Strokethefurrywall · 02/12/2023 21:18

Fionaville · 02/12/2023 19:51

My 10 year old did a course on special effect makeup, including horror, is really skillful and is really into film making. So is completely unfazed by anything gory. We've watched IT together and a few more horror films (that don't contain sex scenes/nudity)
Every parent is different, with different levels of what's acceptable. Mine aren't allowed to have their phones/ipads in their bedrooms and don't have social media, Tik tok or youtube etc
You know your own child best and what they are equipped to deal with. I don't see what reporting it to school would achieve.

Exactly this. My nearly 10 year old is obsessed with horror movies/characters. Directs movies on paper, creates movies scenes with Lego.

Gory/slasher movies don't bother my kids in the slightest, but I draw the line at supernatural stuff like IT because I hated watching it when I was younger.

CalistoNoSolo · 02/12/2023 21:22

Iceache · 02/12/2023 19:16

I think YABU to refer to the masterpiece that is ‘It’ as ‘Pennywise’.

My 10 year old has watched It (with us). It is a brilliant film and has only one thread running through it that is unsuitable (domestic abuse) which we skipped.

I’ve no idea of the content of Violent Night tbh although I will watch it as it looks good, but this pearl clutching over horror films as the route to all criminality is ridiculous. I’m not sure how your son received a video, but I’d be looking at how to avoid this happening again - if he has a phone then you need to be smarter about what he has access to really. You can’t parent other children but you can be more clued up on how to control your own’s access to problem content

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I actually think you're insane to think that It is suitable viewing for a 10yo under any circumstances.

Fionaville · 02/12/2023 21:26

Strokethefurrywall · 02/12/2023 21:18

Exactly this. My nearly 10 year old is obsessed with horror movies/characters. Directs movies on paper, creates movies scenes with Lego.

Gory/slasher movies don't bother my kids in the slightest, but I draw the line at supernatural stuff like IT because I hated watching it when I was younger.

The movies that scared me are the occult ones like the Exorcist and Omen. Or ghostly, paranormal ones. We avoid anything like that. My kids laugh at some of the things that are considered scary by some, because "It looks so fake!"

Roystonv · 02/12/2023 21:39

I am very concerned about some of the responses. At 10 they are a child and should not be exposed to such material in any medium. As a parent you are there to protect them from such things; a guardian of their youth. The world is bad enough without taking away those early years of relative wonder and innocence. Of course you educate them about things they need to know but violent fantasy is not one of them. Old fashioned yes and proud to be.

DarkDarkNight · 02/12/2023 21:41

I think it’s definitely worth an email to school and they can deal with it as a safeguarding concern if they feel it’s needed.

I would be seriously annoyed if someone sent my 10 year old footage like that and a bit wary of what else they might send. You could block him as a contact so your son can’t receive anything else at least temporarily.

Whatthewhy · 02/12/2023 22:18

Roystonv · 02/12/2023 21:39

I am very concerned about some of the responses. At 10 they are a child and should not be exposed to such material in any medium. As a parent you are there to protect them from such things; a guardian of their youth. The world is bad enough without taking away those early years of relative wonder and innocence. Of course you educate them about things they need to know but violent fantasy is not one of them. Old fashioned yes and proud to be.

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I completely agree with this. I am utterly baffled as to why a parent would allow their kid/s to watch such movies. Who's to say it won't affect them in later life?

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jesterdourt · 02/12/2023 22:36

I’ve no idea of the content of Violent Night tbh although I will watch it as it looks good, but this pearl clutching over horror films as the route to all criminality is ridiculous.

Who said the route to all criminality? I do think it desensitises them though.

Greenqueen40 · 02/12/2023 22:44

I am a massive horror fan and also have a 10yr old, certainly wouldn't classify myself as a 'pearl clutcher'.... however to suggest its fine to watch films like 'It' with 10yr olds is absolutely batshit
Yes we may have watched Freddie krugeur in the 80's/90s but horror films have changed SO much since then and the levels of gore, misogyny and sexual violence are off the scale nowadays.
No way in hell will mine be watching any of the things I do until they are a lot more grown up. Absolute shit parenting letting kids watch that stuff.

redhatwhitebeard · 02/12/2023 22:46

WTF! How is IT a family friendly movie for ten year olds? Have I gone completely fucking mad?! I see kids on Instagram dressing up as this evil child killing clown Pennywise and find it weird and very, very warped! For every normal, sane parent there seems to be some that literally think this is normal. It isn't.

Greenqueen40 · 02/12/2023 22:46

'It' is about a fucking child eating clown!!! Why the hell would anyone show that to their young child??!!

Desecratedcoconut · 02/12/2023 22:48

I don't think it leads to criminality. I just think it's poor parenting and poor boundaries to expose young children to content appropriate for adults. Tell me you cba rasing your child in an age appropriate environment without saying so.

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