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Would be happy with this message regarding bump to head

133 replies

mammamummym · 29/11/2023 09:34

Just received this from our childminder. Do you think it's a suitable response to a bumped head?

Hi. Pedro has tripped and bumped his head on the bookcase. He’s got a right little mark. He’s fine and I’ll keep an extra eye on him but obviously with it being a head bump I needed to let you know xx

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KeepSmiling89 · 29/11/2023 11:17

Seems fine to me :)

PGmicstand · 29/11/2023 11:22

All sounds fine to me. The childminder has alerted you and said they'll keep an extra watch on him. The amount of bumps my DC sustained between 2-5 years would have necessitated a revolving door and a shuttle bus to A&E daily if I was to check every single one out.

grass67 · 29/11/2023 11:23

perfectly fine. If you want him checked, collect him. You can't expect the childminder to drag all her charges to A&E.

Bumps are normal at that age.

Hibiscrubbed · 29/11/2023 11:26

TravelInHope · 29/11/2023 10:36

Yes, every head injury, no matter how minor, should be checked out at A&E. We get an X-ray and/or MRI scan for every bump to our DC. Best to be safe rather than sorry!

You tinker.

LondonLass91 · 29/11/2023 11:26

helpfulperson · 29/11/2023 11:17

Especially given the current emphasis on concussion I can see why a parent might think every bump should be checked. The guidance another poster shared is a good guide. If you are ever unsure 111 is another option.

In this case childminder is obviously aware extra vigilance is required for a bit. This is often why we ask parents to collect, not because child needs A & E but because they need an adult carefully monitoring them. Which is hard in a nursery but easier for a childminder.

I wouldn't call 111. They called social services on me when my little one rolled out of bed. Social never followed it up, but 111 said they had to report it to SS for safeguarding reasons. I was a new and petrified mum, caused me so much stress. I'd never call them regarding a child tbh.

Rachie1973 · 29/11/2023 11:37

mammamummym · 29/11/2023 09:34

Just received this from our childminder. Do you think it's a suitable response to a bumped head?

Hi. Pedro has tripped and bumped his head on the bookcase. He’s got a right little mark. He’s fine and I’ll keep an extra eye on him but obviously with it being a head bump I needed to let you know xx

Yes. I get them from the school all the time.

Imperfectp3rf3ction · 29/11/2023 11:42

And we sit here wondering why people actually die waiting for health services 🙈

Grampire · 29/11/2023 11:44

This thread has brought back a memory of an email school sent to me when my DD was in foundation stage.

Area injured: Head
Bumped her head on a cardboard tube

My first instinct was to burst out laughing (she's got a flair for the dramatic). On second thoughts, I probably should have taken her to A&E to get checked out...

Dindundundundeeer · 29/11/2023 11:47

What are you expecting a visit to A&E and a scan?

rainbowlou · 29/11/2023 11:47

mammamummym · 29/11/2023 10:31

I suppose now as thinking any head injury should be checked out. Thanks all

Checked out where? At the hospital?
I work in a school and if we checked out every head bump or injury we would need paramedics permanently stationed in the playground!

zeibesaffron · 29/11/2023 11:48

No not every head bump needs to be checked - you will be spending a lot of wasted time in a and e!

The message is fine and the childminder is keeping an eye on things.

Nanny0gg · 29/11/2023 11:50

TravelInHope · 29/11/2023 10:36

Yes, every head injury, no matter how minor, should be checked out at A&E. We get an X-ray and/or MRI scan for every bump to our DC. Best to be safe rather than sorry!

Seriously??

User13579367337 · 29/11/2023 11:57

grass67 · 29/11/2023 11:23

perfectly fine. If you want him checked, collect him. You can't expect the childminder to drag all her charges to A&E.

Bumps are normal at that age.

This? Emergencies aside, it’s not on the childminder to take your child for a check up. Getting a bump to the head checked out is not the worst advice for a cautious parent, but that’s the parents responsibility to arrange and carry out, not the child minders. Assuming she has other children, she can’t take the lot for a (probably) unnecessary trip to a and e. The same as if your child was in school and had a minor injury. You’d be called to collect the child

listsandbudgets · 29/11/2023 12:07

Absolutely fine - lots of places wouldn't even tell you until you picked up at the end of the day.

I once got a call from school "hello Mrs Listsandbudgets its's Mrs Smith here - we're sorry but Little Lists has been hit on the head with a frying pan - he's alright but we thought you ought to know!"

I was so dumbfounded the only thing I could find to say was "Was it hot?" (Turned out it was a pancake race and so he'd run into a a lightweight thankfully cold pan wielded by one of his classmates)

TinkerTiger · 29/11/2023 12:13

mammamummym · 29/11/2023 10:31

I suppose now as thinking any head injury should be checked out. Thanks all

That's for you to do. I worked in a school, parents were informed of head injuries so that they could continue to monitor and take to doctor/A&E if they so wished/if things worsened. Surely you don't think it's for the childminder to drag all of the children in her care to A&E?

ColleenDonaghy · 29/11/2023 12:14

Our nursery used to just tell us at pickup and then swapped to a message. I hated that, never knew if they were hinting she needed to be picked up or if it was box ticking. If there's nothing wrong I'd rather not know! We're used to it now though.

AuntMarch · 29/11/2023 12:15

mammamummym · 29/11/2023 10:31

I suppose now as thinking any head injury should be checked out. Thanks all

You cannot possibly take your child to get checked with every head bump they have?!

Childminder has to inform you of anything. It doesn't mean its anywhere close to serious enough to need looking at.

ISpyNoPlumPie · 29/11/2023 12:16

mammamummym · 29/11/2023 10:31

I suppose now as thinking any head injury should be checked out. Thanks all

Have you not been signposted to any helpful health resources by a HV or your red book? Here is a good one:

https://www.what0-18.nhs.uk

No. Every head injury does not need to be "checked out" (by a medical professional I'm guessing you mean, you can and should check your child out at some point - your childminder will tell you if you need to do this urgently or if your child is happily playing with no symptoms).

Here are the red/amber flags indicating that a head injury does require a medical review:
RED FLAGS

  • unconsciousness
  • vomiting repeatedly
  • confusion
  • amnesia
  • convulsions
  • difficulty speaking
  • weakness in arms or legs/loss of balance
  • vision changes
  • constant crying unable to soothe
  • not waking for feeds
  • swelling or cut >5cm if child is less than 1yo
  • bruising around the eyes or behind the ears
  • significant mechanism of injury (fall from greater than own height or road traffic collision)

AMBER FLAGS:

  • persistent headache that doesn't go away with pain relief
  • worsening headache

The head injury forms I get from nursery/school are exactly like this (well the school tends not to say "a right little mark"!). I trust them to manage a head injury and escalate it as they see fit. If the child is happy and has no symptoms, they just have to let you know. I'll check my child over when I pick them up and make sure they are ok for the next few hours or so. If this is the first time you have received a head injury notification then I guess you were just surprised.

AuntMarch · 29/11/2023 12:17

listsandbudgets · 29/11/2023 12:07

Absolutely fine - lots of places wouldn't even tell you until you picked up at the end of the day.

I once got a call from school "hello Mrs Listsandbudgets its's Mrs Smith here - we're sorry but Little Lists has been hit on the head with a frying pan - he's alright but we thought you ought to know!"

I was so dumbfounded the only thing I could find to say was "Was it hot?" (Turned out it was a pancake race and so he'd run into a a lightweight thankfully cold pan wielded by one of his classmates)

You know when something doesn't make you laugh out loud as such, but maybe make a weird sort of snort and grin.... just did that in the staff room. Of a new job. So thanks.

Appleass · 29/11/2023 12:18

mammamummym · 29/11/2023 10:31

I suppose now as thinking any head injury should be checked out. Thanks all

and we wonder why the NHS is at breaking point and people are in A & E hours, !!!!!

flowerygloves · 29/11/2023 12:19

The message was fine. If you want to take your child to a&e you do it.

LuluBlakey1 · 29/11/2023 12:22

mammamummym · 29/11/2023 10:31

I suppose now as thinking any head injury should be checked out. Thanks all

Well go and collect him and take him to have it checked out then. She has informed you. Up to you what you do now.

GrandmasMeatloaf · 29/11/2023 12:23

This thread makes me remember when the school called me with regards to a bump…

school: babymeatloaf has fallen and bumped her head.

me: did the become unconscious, is she confused or is she vomiting repeatedly?

school (shocked): eh…no….

me: in that case, would you want to to take her home or are you happy to monitor hoer in school?

I now realise that we should have matched straight to the A&E….

silverbubbles · 29/11/2023 12:27

ask her to send you a photo of the bump

Dindundundundeeer · 29/11/2023 12:29

ISpyNoPlumPie · 29/11/2023 12:16

Have you not been signposted to any helpful health resources by a HV or your red book? Here is a good one:

https://www.what0-18.nhs.uk

No. Every head injury does not need to be "checked out" (by a medical professional I'm guessing you mean, you can and should check your child out at some point - your childminder will tell you if you need to do this urgently or if your child is happily playing with no symptoms).

Here are the red/amber flags indicating that a head injury does require a medical review:
RED FLAGS

  • unconsciousness
  • vomiting repeatedly
  • confusion
  • amnesia
  • convulsions
  • difficulty speaking
  • weakness in arms or legs/loss of balance
  • vision changes
  • constant crying unable to soothe
  • not waking for feeds
  • swelling or cut >5cm if child is less than 1yo
  • bruising around the eyes or behind the ears
  • significant mechanism of injury (fall from greater than own height or road traffic collision)

AMBER FLAGS:

  • persistent headache that doesn't go away with pain relief
  • worsening headache

The head injury forms I get from nursery/school are exactly like this (well the school tends not to say "a right little mark"!). I trust them to manage a head injury and escalate it as they see fit. If the child is happy and has no symptoms, they just have to let you know. I'll check my child over when I pick them up and make sure they are ok for the next few hours or so. If this is the first time you have received a head injury notification then I guess you were just surprised.

Perfect

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