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Defrosting the car

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DustyLee123 · 29/11/2023 07:08

It really winds me up when people leave the engine running for ages, and windscreen wipers going full pelt, instead of just defrosting the car with water/scraper and going.

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enchantedsquirrelwood · 29/11/2023 08:47

Dbank · 29/11/2023 08:43

Surely easier to use a de-icing spray? Just needs a bit of planning to buy it first....

They are pretty vile though, I am not sure I want to breath in the fumes from it. I'd rather scrape. Fortunately I don't have to do it that often as I mainly work from home and am also relatively sheltered so I usually only have to do the windscreen and two windows, or the rear screen and two windows, depending on which way round the car is parked.

LittleRedDots · 29/11/2023 08:47

Even RAC asvise using air con to demist your windows. Wiping it just leaves smears everywhere which make it hard to see at night when you have headlights shining through window.

OnAir · 29/11/2023 08:47

Mumsnet does blow my mind. Complain about everything and anything

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 29/11/2023 08:48

MrsMarzetti · 29/11/2023 08:30

If you use the windscreen wipers for 10 mins to remove the ice you will burn the motor out, stupid thing to do.

Utter nonsense

NetZeroZealot · 29/11/2023 08:51

The great thing about an EV is you can switch it on to defrost remotely about 10 minutes before you leave the house.

Dbank · 29/11/2023 08:51

enchantedsquirrelwood · 29/11/2023 08:47

They are pretty vile though, I am not sure I want to breath in the fumes from it. I'd rather scrape. Fortunately I don't have to do it that often as I mainly work from home and am also relatively sheltered so I usually only have to do the windscreen and two windows, or the rear screen and two windows, depending on which way round the car is parked.

I quite like the smell of it!

Shade17 · 29/11/2023 08:52

You can idle a car on the road all you need to if you have a good reason. My car is on the road not on a drive.

Very true, it’s unnecessary idling that’s the offence.

margotrose · 29/11/2023 08:53

WaxhamSeals · 29/11/2023 08:17

This thread just goes to show that car drivers will try to justify anything antisocial about using their vehicles. See also pavement or grass verge parking - it doesn’t matter who else is adversely affected

I’m pretty certain it’s illegal to drive around with no visibility.

Knocking someone over because you can’t see them would be a lot more antisocial than idling your engine for a few minutes 😉

VanityDiesHard · 29/11/2023 08:54

None of your business really, is it? Unless you are volunteering to scrape their cars.....

Bromptotoo · 29/11/2023 08:54

Not trawled the entire thread but cars left running to defrost drive me mad. Two neighbours used to it before unleaded/cat converters etc when the exhausts were even smellier and more polluting then now.

There are options:

One is to use a small watering can of warm (hand hot) water. If there's only a bit of frost that's enough but when really cold you need the wipers as well to shift the water before it re freezes. Doing this warms the glass sufficiently to drive off internal condensation too. Helps massively if the glass is clean inside as mist is much worse if it's got muck to cling to. I'd have been chary of that in the era of toughened glass but modern laminated screens are fine.

Did that for years with an 06:30 start for the station and a commuter train. Start engine with heater on demist, apply water, flick wipers over screen and drive off.

Another option, if you have a drive, is to run a cheap/cheerful fan heater in the car for a few minutes while you drink your last cup of tea.

Third is some sort of screen cover, an old bed sheet trapped in the doors worked for us.

Deicer is a snare as it makes internal steaming infinitely worse.

Real 'mare is when it's sat in winter sunshine all day at the station. Gets warm inside and moisture from getting in in wet coats/shoes is driven off seat/carpets. As soon as the sun goes down it freezes. Not just outside but inside too. On those occasions I've sat in it with the engine running. Takes ages.

A flask filled with warm water at the office helps.

margotrose · 29/11/2023 08:55

Alexandra2001 · 29/11/2023 08:33

Why don't you and others just use a cloth? instead of just adding to our shit air quality.
Loads of specific ones available on amazon etc.

No one i knew in Sweden used to leave their engines running and its a lot colder there.... unless you like paying a fine.

Because all it does is smear the moisture around the inside of my car and I still can’t see anything.

Dbank · 29/11/2023 08:57

Shade17 · 29/11/2023 08:52

You can idle a car on the road all you need to if you have a good reason. My car is on the road not on a drive.

Very true, it’s unnecessary idling that’s the offence.

Not unattended, according to the UK highway code.

Eybyegum · 29/11/2023 08:57

I was hoping this thread had useful ideas but it’s just the usual.

Cassette cases then CD cases were the way to go for deicing when you forgot your buy a scraper.

I have two gel bags in my 10 yr old car but it still takes ages to demist, probably due to the wet dogs who travel in it daily. When I tried wiping the windscreen it took me about a month to get the streaks off.

Any useful suggestions that save me and the dogs freezing each morning would be welcome.

sixteenfurryfeet · 29/11/2023 08:57

My heated windscreen doesn't work unless the engine's running, so I put that on while I scrape the other windows. By the time I've done that, the windscreen has defrosted. I don't use the wipers because they are usually frozen solid and stuck to the glass.

Can't see any other way round it really.

CyberCritical · 29/11/2023 08:57

Tepid water on the windscreen and a window cleaner rubber squeegee for demisting the inside, way better than a cloth which just seems to wipe the moisture around and leave smears.

DrMarshaFieldstone · 29/11/2023 09:00

I do enjoy these annual threads. You could set your calendar by them.

DappledThings · 29/11/2023 09:00

Alexandra2001 · 29/11/2023 08:36

Thats because the inside of your screen is filth or the cloth is, special wipes!!! lol! have you got engine grease on your windscreen?

its illegal to leave engines running in many European countries, how do you think they all manage.

What can I say? One attempt by DH to wipe the mist off left dried droplets and smears all over the inside. Next time I was in Dunelm I saw some glass wipes so I grabbed them and used one yesterday. Still a bit smeary but the dried droplets are gone so it's clearer.

I'll be using the demisters only in future.

Dbank · 29/11/2023 09:01

Drying the interior of the car with a powered dehumidifier a couple of times a winter helps stop the misting up of the windows immensely.

SapphireSeptember · 29/11/2023 09:01

My ex housemate did this, but his bright idea was to leave the front door open while doing it, so all the cold air would come in, and go right under my bedroom door, the arsehole. He's also the one who was responsible for leaving the kitchen window open all day. I'm now living in my own little flat, and so thankful I don't have to deal with that anymore!

WaddesdonWanderer · 29/11/2023 09:04

YANBU OP. It’s so bad for the environment. I wish someone would nick their cars while they pop back in the house for an eternity. My fucking neighbour has a fucking 4 fucking litre fucking Jag that he revs for fucking ages at fucking 6:30 all the fucking year. Fucker. One day he’s going to find it in flames. Ooh I feel slightly better after that rant.

Demisting windows takes ages? No it doesn’t! Wipe them with a chamois!

chaosmaker · 29/11/2023 09:04

BardRelic · 29/11/2023 08:15

Get a car windscreen cover, and you can cut down the time needed dramatically, as at least the front windscreen doesn't need scraping. I then put the engine on with heaters full blast, directed at the windows, to demist whilst I scrape the other windows. Takes about 5 minutes. My neighbour leaves her car running so it's warm inside for her. That pisses me off. Just wear a fucking coat love.

It's about doing what you can for the environment. Sometimes I think petrol is nowhere near expensive enough. You wouldn't burn ten pound notes, so why burn more fuel than you really need to?

Fireworks and fags are purely burning money.....

All the people with damp/ice inside their cars, have you checked the seals around your doors and windows? It might help solve the problem if they can be replaced.

Wednesdaysotherchild · 29/11/2023 09:05

Electric cars will solve this issue! Heat from indoors using an app.

Saucery · 29/11/2023 09:05

Eybyegum · 29/11/2023 08:57

I was hoping this thread had useful ideas but it’s just the usual.

Cassette cases then CD cases were the way to go for deicing when you forgot your buy a scraper.

I have two gel bags in my 10 yr old car but it still takes ages to demist, probably due to the wet dogs who travel in it daily. When I tried wiping the windscreen it took me about a month to get the streaks off.

Any useful suggestions that save me and the dogs freezing each morning would be welcome.

Useful ideas are a car cover or a windscreen cover, that sorts the outside ice problem. Absorbent cloths for the insides speeds the process up a bit (but it never clears it permanently the first time in mine).
A little handheld moisture remover like the Karcher ones for house windows would be great, but not sure if they exist.
Also, make sure there are no sources of moisture in the car - definitely don’t put the car/windscreen cover in the boot when you take it off or all that water is just lurking to make condensation the next morning. Things like dog blankets, wet gloves etc too, all contribute.
I do all the above, but still have to run the engine for 6-10 mins to clear the condensation inside. When I replace my car I’m going to specifically research the efficiency of the aircon. DH’s take about 2 minutes.

hookiewookie29 · 29/11/2023 09:05

My car is 32 years old ....I have to defrost the inside as well as the outside!

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