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Jane Eyre- Rochester

88 replies

HollowEgg · 28/11/2023 17:51

How do you pronounce Rochester?

Ive always read it as Roh Chester but listening to it on Audible and she pronounces it RoT Chester.

Have I been wrong all these years?

OP posts:
Ethylred · 28/11/2023 18:51

OP are you from Texas or sunnink?

spanieleyes · 28/11/2023 18:51

@Wingsnfly
Me too! My dad was brought up on Hill Top, I was born at the bottom of Havelock Street, we moved to Lidget Green when I was very young and then Great Horton but moved back to Thornton again when I was 8 and went to Market Street School! My parents ( and grandparents ) are in Thornton Cemetery!

MrsJellybee · 28/11/2023 18:54

StoatofDisarray · 28/11/2023 18:16

ROTCH-ester.

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SharonEllis · 28/11/2023 18:56

Gotobloodysleep · 28/11/2023 18:14

It's pronounced Roh-Chester . I live near near Rochester and have never heard anyone say it any differently.

Rochester is never pronounced roh chester by anyone in Rochester!. Its pronounced Rotchester.

JaneJeffer · 28/11/2023 18:59

Is everyone else mumbling Rochester Rochester Rochester now?

KatBurglar · 28/11/2023 19:00

Roh, as in Row, Row, Row your boat, Chester? That's just plain weird, OP.

That's like my American friend doing King Lear in school and saying "the Dook Of Glau-sesster

clarepetal · 28/11/2023 19:06

I pronounce it Roh Chester. And I really fancy him even if he was a bit of a bastard.

RainRainRainAgain · 28/11/2023 19:07

Bobtheamazinggingerdog · 28/11/2023 18:44

How are you pronouncing roh Chester? Like row Chester?
it doesn't have a T so it's not rot Chester but the RO is the same sound as in rot.

This nails it, I've lived in the town for over 30 years and only ever heard it pronounced this way!

GoodOldEmmaNess · 28/11/2023 19:09

You are wrong, OP, and I'm fearful that you have been pronouncing Eyre as Aiy-ree.

GoodOldEmmaNess · 28/11/2023 19:14

Rochester was ruined for me by my sister's A level French teacher, who was called Mr Rochester and was a totally tedious vanilla old man.

More Mr Collins than Mr Rochester. I should have sued him.

TodayForTomorrow · 28/11/2023 19:16

North West - ROTCHuhstuh

Friendfoe1 · 28/11/2023 19:18

All the TV and movie adaptations use Rotch-ester too 🤷‍♀️

HonoriaLucastaDelagardie · 28/11/2023 19:36

Roch-ester. There's no T sound because there's no T, and never has been.

(There's often no T sound in Chatham, even though there is a T, so very unlikely one would be added where there isn't a T!)

People who say Rot-chester, do you say Chit-chester, Wint-chester, Mant-chester?

LunaandLily · 28/11/2023 19:46

Is it the Thandie Newton audiobook you’re listening to OP? She does an absolutely outstanding job, I’ve listened to it 3 times over the past 4 years!

LunaandLily · 28/11/2023 19:47

HonoriaLucastaDelagardie · 28/11/2023 19:36

Roch-ester. There's no T sound because there's no T, and never has been.

(There's often no T sound in Chatham, even though there is a T, so very unlikely one would be added where there isn't a T!)

People who say Rot-chester, do you say Chit-chester, Wint-chester, Mant-chester?

I think the OP is asking if we say Raw-Chester or Row-Chester, not if we add a T sound.

TooFondOfBooks · 28/11/2023 19:59

LunaandLily · 28/11/2023 19:47

I think the OP is asking if we say Raw-Chester or Row-Chester, not if we add a T sound.

I don’t understand how roh vs rot = raw vs row.

Really hope OP hasn’t essentially asked “do you add a T sound to this word?” when she meant something completely different. Because that would, in fact, be vvv unreasonable.

cariadlet · 28/11/2023 20:05

I put Rot-chester in my earlier post as that corresponded fairly closely to one of the op's alternatives and wanted to emphasise that I'd never hear the first syllable pronounced as Roe.

I don't actually pronounce the 't'.

I say RO-chester with a short o (the o in pot; not the o in go) in the first syllable.

LunaandLily · 28/11/2023 20:12

TooFondOfBooks · 28/11/2023 19:59

I don’t understand how roh vs rot = raw vs row.

Really hope OP hasn’t essentially asked “do you add a T sound to this word?” when she meant something completely different. Because that would, in fact, be vvv unreasonable.

row = roh and raw = rot

you’ll just have to make your peace with the fact that OP was not suggesting you add a T and you misinterpreted that! It’s ok!

Wingsnfly · 28/11/2023 20:22

@spanieleyes We lived on Back Lane and went to the primary on James Street (it's houses now I think). I never normally meet people from Thornton.

Loopytiles · 28/11/2023 20:25

Your OP is unclear on how you are pronouncing it.

Loopytiles · 28/11/2023 20:26

If you mean row (as in ‘row the boat’) then YABU!

Pennina · 28/11/2023 21:07

FranticHare · 28/11/2023 17:58

You are wrong :-)

Rot-chester all the way!!

This!

Pennina · 28/11/2023 21:11

Omg mispost, no 't'

Ro-Chester

Like Man-Chester

rosemarypetticoat · 28/11/2023 21:33

I think this is my all time favourite Mumsnet thread.

And it’s obviously Rotch-ester.

JassyRadlett · 28/11/2023 21:43

Oh lordy.

"tch" is a fairly common spelling for the phoneme /ch/. Watch, crotch, stretch, hatch, catch, botch. Generally after a short vowel. I don't think anyone here is suggesting a separate "t" sound from the rest of the "ch", just that those letters together commonly make a hard "ch" sound.

So: Rotch-to-rhyme-with-botchester.

I desperately want MNHQ to mandate IPA on all pronunciation-related threads, though I grant it would remove half the interest and enjoyment from them...