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To think I shouldn’t have to stop my run to walk past a horse?

715 replies

Famousperson2023 · 25/11/2023 05:44

This has happened twice now. Out for a run and the horse riders have asked me to stop running while I go past their horse!!

I’ll put this in context- daughter rides, I used to ride. When passing a horse or pony I’ll go wide and slow, or stop and wait at a passing place on narrow roads (often while the riders amble up at a slow walk deep in conversation with their fellow riders, 3 abreast….and without a hint of thank you). When I’m out with our dog I’ll make sure she is on the lead while we pass. but being asked to stop and walk???

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MadameCamembert · 25/11/2023 08:03

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:01

My child isn't 'running amok'. They are enjoying the paths as they are meant to be enjoyed. My child is well-trained to look where they're going, not to push past people and to show consideration for the elderly and those with mobility problems.

I'm not asking for special 'consideration' for my child by demanding that you and others keep dangerous dogs, bikes or horses away from them.

But so is everybody else enjoying the paths as they are supposed to be enjoyed.

It might be best to keep your child at home if you can’t, or won’t, raise them to extend courtesy.

Baffling.

Peablockfeathers · 25/11/2023 08:04

BelindaOkra · 25/11/2023 07:52

How long ago did you ride? If recently you’d surely remember how even bomb proof horses can spook if something unexpected happens.

I’d never run past a horse (esp from behind) as I don’t want someone seriously injured. Surely this is just common sense?

Why would it be common sense? The majority of people have never ridden a horse nor spent considerable time around them, lots of people who have been around horses assume lots of things that actually aren't are obvious. Personally I'd walk past if asked by a rider, it's very odd behaviour to ride on the back of an animal for leisure and so I'd listen to get away from them ASAP.

MadameCamembert · 25/11/2023 08:05

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:02

And to the rider, the risk is the child.

The risk is only the child because you are on a horse!

Remove the horse, remove the risk.

So the risk is still the horse.

And remove your child, remove the risk.

I don’t understand how you can’t see your double standards? Just have some courtesy for others!

Fannyfiggs · 25/11/2023 08:06

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:02

And to the rider, the risk is the child.

The risk is only the child because you are on a horse!

Remove the horse, remove the risk.

So the risk is still the horse.

Nope, remove the child and you have removed the rider's risk.

We could do this all day 😂

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:07

MadameCamembert · 25/11/2023 08:03

But so is everybody else enjoying the paths as they are supposed to be enjoyed.

It might be best to keep your child at home if you can’t, or won’t, raise them to extend courtesy.

Baffling.

Only some people using the paths pose a risk to others.

The burden is on those people to protect against the risk that they pose.

If they won't/ can't do this, then they should stay home.

TodayInahurry · 25/11/2023 08:07

I always stop for the horse to pass, can’t see the problem. I am usually on the way to my horse, I have not ridden on the road since I moved, far too dangerous!

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:08

Fannyfiggs · 25/11/2023 08:06

Nope, remove the child and you have removed the rider's risk.

We could do this all day 😂

Yes, and you would still be wrong.

Passepartoute · 25/11/2023 08:08

What on earth is so terrible about being asked to walk for a few steps? Quite simply, horses are allowed to use the roads, if you running past them is potentially dangerous for you and/or the rider, it's an utterly reasonable request to make.

MadameCamembert · 25/11/2023 08:08

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:07

Only some people using the paths pose a risk to others.

The burden is on those people to protect against the risk that they pose.

If they won't/ can't do this, then they should stay home.

No. Your child poses a risk to a rider.

And the rider requesting you walk IS them taking ownership of protecting other path users by providing some very obvious and easy to follow safety instructions.

HaPPy8 · 25/11/2023 08:10

ActDottie · 25/11/2023 08:01

You’re obviously not a runner or never followed a proper training programme.

It’s perfectly acceptable for runners to want to time themselves for pace to improve, it’s how training works… if I just went along at some slow plod pace I’d never get faster.

If you were really a “proper” runner you’d hire a track then. Because all sorts of things not least other pedestrians can break your stride on public rights of way.

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:10

MadameCamembert · 25/11/2023 08:08

No. Your child poses a risk to a rider.

And the rider requesting you walk IS them taking ownership of protecting other path users by providing some very obvious and easy to follow safety instructions.

You cannot rely on others behaving in a certain way to mitigate a danger you have yourself introduced. What if someone is hard of hearing or slow to respond?

Fannyfiggs · 25/11/2023 08:11

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:08

Yes, and you would still be wrong.

And running children will still be a risk to riders.

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:11

MadameCamembert · 25/11/2023 08:08

No. Your child poses a risk to a rider.

And the rider requesting you walk IS them taking ownership of protecting other path users by providing some very obvious and easy to follow safety instructions.

The risk to the rider is created by the horse, not my child. Remove the horse, no risk to either my child or the rider.

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:11

Fannyfiggs · 25/11/2023 08:11

And running children will still be a risk to riders.

Remove the house, no risk to either child or rider.

MadameCamembert · 25/11/2023 08:13

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:11

The risk to the rider is created by the horse, not my child. Remove the horse, no risk to either my child or the rider.

Again, remove your running child and we’ve removed the danger.

How can you be so blinkered to not understand that we all should play a role in helping where possible to safeguard each other?

Fannyfiggs · 25/11/2023 08:13

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:11

Remove the house, no risk to either child or rider.

Now a house risk is a different matter...

CrunchyCarrot · 25/11/2023 08:14

I think you're being very unreasonable, OP. I used to ride when I was younger, and there's no way I'd have wanted someone running up behind my horse. It's just too risky all round. All you have to do is be considerate and slow to a walk until you go past them. What's so difficult about that?

Peablockfeathers · 25/11/2023 08:14

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:11

The risk to the rider is created by the horse, not my child. Remove the horse, no risk to either my child or the rider.

Valiant effort but you'll never win against horsey people I'd save your energy 🤣

MadameCamembert · 25/11/2023 08:15

Fannyfiggs · 25/11/2023 08:13

Now a house risk is a different matter...

Of course, the child is free to run around peoples homes. It’s their own fault if they have furniture or obstructions. Remove the house, remove the risk to the running child.

Fizbosshoes · 25/11/2023 08:15

I'm a runner and I usually stop to walk past horses (and sometimes dogs!) because I think animals are unpredictable and I'm a bit nervous about them. It's not a huge problem, I only encounter horses a few times a year.

Once though I was on a fairly narrow footpath and a horse was ahead, I thought it would be way to close to pass so walked behind the horse for maybe 100m or so until a junction in the path. The rider then saw me and berated me for not saying I was there!

CwmYoy · 25/11/2023 08:15

It's a very small ask. It would take a very spiteful person not to comply.

Sellingbedtime · 25/11/2023 08:15

I would personally stop and step to the side of slow down to a walking pace. I wouldn't want to spook a horse and cause any potential harm

wherethewaterisdarker · 25/11/2023 08:18

Ugh other species are just as entitled to this world as you are - or that’s what I believe anyway. Quite radical I know.

tenbob · 25/11/2023 08:19

Goldbar · 25/11/2023 08:11

The risk to the rider is created by the horse, not my child. Remove the horse, no risk to either my child or the rider.

I can’t get my head around being so selfish and pig-headed as to think like this. I’m not exaggerating when I say it blows my mind

But posts like these are also a sobering reminder of how we live in a world with so much conflict

It’s the same sort of mindset and total inflexibility of thought that causes the worst and most long-running problems in the world

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 25/11/2023 08:19

This is like drivers complaining about having to wait to go past cyclists. We all have the right to use the road. Horses present a danger to you, themselves and the person on their back if you spook them. Cars present a danger to the occupant and vastly more to other road users. If a car overtook you at the speed it was going and therefore threatened your health and safety without slowing down, you’d probably have a problem with that if you hadn’t been mown down on your run.

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