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TheGhostsOfMeAndYou · 25/11/2023 01:09

My husband thinks I am ridiculous that I always thought the saying "another think coming" was "another thing coming"

It's taken me 38 years to realise this and I now feel rather silly.

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TheWickermanReturns · 25/11/2023 09:37

PedantScorner · 25/11/2023 09:36

@TheWickermanReturns , decimated now has both meanings, but it originally meant reduce by a tenth. The 'destroyed' meaning evolved through misuse.

Which is fine. Please see my earlier comment about the development of language.

Pozz · 25/11/2023 09:37

Irregardless...
Smile

PedantScorner · 25/11/2023 09:39

@TheWickermanReturns , it won't be long before 'could of' will be considered acceptable.

ColleenDonaghy · 25/11/2023 09:39

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/11/2023 09:37

I’ve never heard it used in a slang way, only in a misunderstood way.

Well now you know Smile

TheWickermanReturns · 25/11/2023 09:40

PedantScorner · 25/11/2023 09:39

@TheWickermanReturns , it won't be long before 'could of' will be considered acceptable.

If you feel so strongly about it, why aren’t you speaking in Latin or Anglisc? Language develops. Do I always agree? Of course not. But you cannot pick and choose which developments suit you.

Toooldtoworry · 25/11/2023 09:42

My husband always says 'nip it in the butt' instead of bud. Drives me nuts.

starfishmummy · 25/11/2023 09:51

PuttingDownRoots · 25/11/2023 08:56

Apparently "think" has been around since 19tn Century, and "thing" definitely from the 80s, maybe earlier... so after 40 years I think both are legitimate!

I'm in the "think" camp, and as I predate the 80s (by a comsiderable time) then I guess that's why I'm right.....

KimberleyClark · 25/11/2023 09:52

“Flaunting the rules” drives me mad. As does this phenomena, this criteria, this bacteria……..

AyrshireTryer · 25/11/2023 09:57

The proof of the pudding is in the eating

AyrshireTryer · 25/11/2023 09:59

discrete and discreet. I know not a saying, but it rinds my ears

mountainbills · 25/11/2023 10:04

Anyone mentioned 'step foot'? It's 'set foot'!

PedantScorner · 25/11/2023 10:12

@TheWickermanReturns , I'm not sure what you are referring to.
I don't disagree with language evolving unless the original meaning of a word is forgotten or if the evolution isn't positive. We have a rich language because it has evolved and borrowed from other languages.

TheWickermanReturns · 25/11/2023 10:17

PedantScorner · 25/11/2023 10:12

@TheWickermanReturns , I'm not sure what you are referring to.
I don't disagree with language evolving unless the original meaning of a word is forgotten or if the evolution isn't positive. We have a rich language because it has evolved and borrowed from other languages.

That’s exactly what I came on to say and then you started debating with me - I said decimate has two meanings. You argued that the meaning has changed and that wasn’t the original comment. I said yes, that happens. Now it has two meanings. You made a sarky comment about ‘could of’, I reiterated that sometimes language changes. Sometimes spellings change, sometimes words change, sometimes phrases change. Sometimes this occurs because of a deliberate invention, other times it happens due to misuse. As I said, I don’t always agree with that - of course not. I don’t think it should be ‘of’ instead of ‘have’ and I never said that. I don’t know why you’re trying to draw me into an argument at all. I simply came on to say that language evolves and sometimes we have to embrace that and that it can be hugely positive. I have published phrases and words that I’ve invented or adjusted - it’s fun providing it’s clear and understandable.

PedantScorner · 25/11/2023 10:40

@TheWickermanReturns , I did not debate with you, or argue with you, and I did not say that the meaning of decimated had changed from meaning reduce by a tenth. My point was that the decimated to mean destroyed had come about by misuse. Decimated still means reduce by a tenth, but it can nowadays be used to mean destroyed.

I was not being sarky. My 'could of' post was a comment - it is likely to happen.

FWIW, I don't consider decimated now being used to mean destroyed as being positive evolution. There are plenty of words that could be used for destroy, but I can't think of another that means reduce by a tenth.

TheWickermanReturns · 25/11/2023 10:46

PedantScorner · 25/11/2023 10:40

@TheWickermanReturns , I did not debate with you, or argue with you, and I did not say that the meaning of decimated had changed from meaning reduce by a tenth. My point was that the decimated to mean destroyed had come about by misuse. Decimated still means reduce by a tenth, but it can nowadays be used to mean destroyed.

I was not being sarky. My 'could of' post was a comment - it is likely to happen.

FWIW, I don't consider decimated now being used to mean destroyed as being positive evolution. There are plenty of words that could be used for destroy, but I can't think of another that means reduce by a tenth.

But how often do we in today’s times need a word to represent the loss by specifically a tenth? I doubt that there is a great deal of confusion when the word is used these days to be honest. I can understand the frustration, sometimes it feels as though the beauty of our language is getting…’decimated’ 😉

Personally I can’t see ‘could of’ becoming official over ‘could have’. Same as I can’t see them changing ‘lose’ to ‘loose’ despite its constant common misuse. Same as it has stoutly remained as ‘an historic’ instead of ‘a historic’. But we shall see in time, I guess!

marshmallowfinder · 25/11/2023 11:02

JudgeJ · 25/11/2023 09:17

Youse is a regional thing, mainly Liverpool area.

Conversationally maybe, but not correct in writing.

ColleenDonaghy · 25/11/2023 11:04

marshmallowfinder · 25/11/2023 11:02

Conversationally maybe, but not correct in writing.

Depends on the context surely, I don't think there's any need to write formally on MN or social media.

Seymour5 · 25/11/2023 11:04

When did heart rending become heart wrenching? Gut wrenching and heart rending.

And yes to thise pointing out set foot not step foot!

@PedantScorner nooooooo.

FarEast · 25/11/2023 11:14

marshmallowfinder · 25/11/2023 06:47

Or should that be your a genius? (It pains me to actually type that.)

Or

your a genus

(I typed that with my eyes closed)

FarEast · 25/11/2023 11:17

Depends on the context surely, I don't think there's any need to write formally on MN or social media.

I think there's a difference between writing formally, and writing ungrammatically @ColleenDonaghy. Grammar is the agreed set of rules through which we communicate, as are the meanings of words; I could call a 'table' a 'fish,' but it wouldn't be particularly effective communication. I could use the wrong preposition: I could say 'I put the table into the fish' but my meaning wouldn't be at all clear, if what I wanted to say were: 'I put the fish on the table.'

ColleenDonaghy · 25/11/2023 11:19

FarEast · 25/11/2023 11:17

Depends on the context surely, I don't think there's any need to write formally on MN or social media.

I think there's a difference between writing formally, and writing ungrammatically @ColleenDonaghy. Grammar is the agreed set of rules through which we communicate, as are the meanings of words; I could call a 'table' a 'fish,' but it wouldn't be particularly effective communication. I could use the wrong preposition: I could say 'I put the table into the fish' but my meaning wouldn't be at all clear, if what I wanted to say were: 'I put the fish on the table.'

But I was responding to a post about "youse" which is popular informal usage in lots of places.

Similar to the misunderstanding about "chronic" above and the poster thinking someone was incorrect when actually they were just being informal.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 25/11/2023 11:23

Elsewhere on MN I’ve just seen ‘on tender hooks’.
It’s ‘tenter hooks’.
(What ‘tenter’ actually means IDK - must look it up.)

BeardedIrises · 25/11/2023 11:24

ColleenDonaghy · 25/11/2023 11:04

Depends on the context surely, I don't think there's any need to write formally on MN or social media.

I’m fine with ‘youse’ (my own Hiberno-English makes frequent use of ‘ye’, which is useful for distinguishing between you as an individual and you plural), but I think the issue with things that are just misspellings or misheard/ misunderstood expressions is that some people only read online, unproofed prose, on SM sites, so they don’t have any ‘correct’ prose for comparison — hence the alarmingly widespread usage of ‘Chester draws”, ‘rest bite’, ‘defiantly’ for ‘definitely’.

PedantScorner · 25/11/2023 11:27

Personally I can’t see ‘could of’ becoming official over ‘could have’. I do hope you're right. It gives me the ick.

I think of decimated as coming from tithes, so I might say I was decimating my take home pay.

The Roman army decimated my troop. How many soldiers survived?

Youse doesn't bother me. If yer from The Pool, yer used to it.

Kerantli · 25/11/2023 11:28

Pinkpinkpink15 · 25/11/2023 08:55

@Kerantli

but that's correct. It is tenterhooks, not tenderhooks

Yeah, I'd been saying Tenderhooks instead

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