James Cleverly ( Stockton)

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www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/james-cleverly-stockton-north-shithole-b2451844.html

Course he said it! What happened to levelling up eh! Scary that they actually think like this. It isn't helpful at all. Disgraceful in fact.

I believe Bannatyne lives at Wynyard and Hardy lives in Yarm - neither of which are places in the North Stockton constituency. I'm sure like everyone else they are aware that Stockton North is 'a shit hole'

And the rest of the north east. Cleverly’s single-handedly demolished the red wall.

you are completely missing the point. I neither know nor care what Stockton is like, although I do care about children living in poverty and I do care about a member of the government behaving like this. Being rude about a community in our country, lying about it, backtracking about his lies none of that is OK regardless of how you or anyone else feels about Stockton.

Those votes plus the votes of the elderly who have learned that the Tory party think they should have all just died in the pandemic. They seem to be digging their own grave.

Except Stockton North includes Wynyard, Thorpe Thewles, Norton, Billingham, Stillington as well as the less desirable areas.

https://members.parliament.uk/constituency/3775/location

Wow.

His inappropriate comment was in response to the extremely high rates of child poverty.

Ive never been to Stockton but if it is a ‘shithole’, and if it is a ‘shithole’ because of poverty, it’s because the Tories have made it a ‘shithole’

You don’t think an MO, a decision maker whose actions affect millions, blaming children for being in poverty is newsworthy?

WTF have I just read.

You don’t think a place that needs levelling up should have any money spent on it?

I hate humans sometimes

The government do it have ‘limited funds’ - they just choose not to spend them anywhere outside the south.

Stockton isn’t worth saving - shall we just nepalm all the residents then?

Thank fuck real life doesn’t work like that

My job isn’t to make the country a better place and do something serious about child poverty. HTH

Yep. I went to Wembley recently - the area was filthy, run down, drug dealers on street corners openly dealing, fights in public etc.

But I’m not so much of a colossal cunt that I’d say “fuck them leave the children to squalor” and I can’t imagine why anyone else would ever take that stance.

OK then if it’s about ‘cold hard numbers’ - give me a financial breakdown of WHY the government can’t invest in Stockton. Seeing as you know it all, what is it about Stockton that means it will inevitably financially fail and that the repercussions of NOT investing (ie generations of impoverished economically inactive people, costing the economy millions to take care of) will be cheaper in the long run?

Ill wait.

Stockton is simply not worth saving.

In 1981 Mrs Thatcher was minded to let Liverpool wither on the vine - I think the phrase was 'managed decline'.

That wouldn't have been a wise move would it.

People aren't half getting carried away with the wrong element of this.

It doesn't matter that it was Stockton. It doesn't matter what your personal opinion of Stockton is.

The Home Secretary should absolutely not ever be referring to any constituency, town, village, city or part of the UK as a shithole, and most certainly not as a remark in response to the amount of children living in poverty in said place. Lying about it is perhaps even worse as it is clear as day on the recording what words are said so just shows further his contempt for the people he is paid to represent as Home Secretary.

He seems to like the word shit - he hasn't denied saying the Rwanda plan was batshit.

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Bannatyne lives in Yarm, Tom Hardy lives in America he never lived in Stockton his girlfriend parents live near Thorpe thewels hence why he's been spotted about. I know as I'm a teessider.

This, with bells on.

If you don't have a problem with the home secretary reacting to a question about child poverty with the phrase "because it's a shithole" then really, raise your standards.

The people of Stockton wouldn't be allowed the tents. Tents bad, remember.

lochmaree · Yesterday 20:22

it's not ideal but I dont think it's newsworthy.”

You have an incredibly low bar. Until a week or so ago, this person was representing the UK overseas. You really believe such conduct is acceptable?

I've met plenty of politicians through work and my major problem with the Tory party is they are generally truly awful about working class people. Brexit was just a way to get the working class vote by using immigration as a catalyst. They see the majority of UK citizens as heathens. I'll never forget what a Tory back bencher said to me about teenage mums - it was disgusting and he thought he was being hilarious.
Labour politicians are far from perfect but their objectives are totally different. They at least have a moral compass - even if their policies are sometimes off. I know who I'd rather have in power.

Sunak should sack him, but he won't.

Exactly - as I said, can anyone imagine him saying it about Weybridge or fucking Virginia Water? The cunt.

He can’t really - he’s running out of people to put in the cabinet.

Tory party ... are generally truly awful about working class people.

How do you reconcile that statement with Tories who are from WC, though, like Gove, Dorries, Javid, Schapps, McVey (started life in care), Stephen Crabb, Steve Baker.... I'm not sure the "Tories are all posh boys" stereotype holds up, any more.

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