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Very shaken neighbour incident

147 replies

Shakennotstirred1 · 23/11/2023 14:25

We don't speak to our neighbours. They are very difficult people & after a string of incidents previously we are no contact.
However today DH was out our front garden (terrace house attached to our neighbours) & hung up a santa with fishing wire.
About an hour later we heard a crash against the window & DH ran out. The neighbour climed a little ladder & had cut the wire & the decoration crashed against the window.
DH roared what are you playing at. The neighbour was roaring the fishing line (which was invisible) was over his garden (it wasn't, was completely in our garden) & then proceeded to call my DH a fat c**r & called him out onto the footpath for a fight.
DH lost the rag back at him but thankfully didn't rise to the bait.
I'm very shaken & after a tough year was excited to put up the decorations with my girls.
Don't know what the next move should be, part of me wants to get even but I just don't want any more agro with them...

OP posts:
Pasithean · 23/11/2023 17:10

Redebs · 23/11/2023 15:27

Why are people suggesting OP sells her house and moves?
Moving home is a drastic action.
Daft neighbours are everywhere

Bea cause ours started this 7 years ago. Resulting in recent criminal damage and violence costing us over 30k in court.

lesdeluges · 23/11/2023 17:11

He's jealous. Is your Santa bigger, brighter, or more expensive looking than his?

Yes there are some absolute idiots out there who would go mad if they thought you had one better than theirs

Personally I'd try to ignore completely. He is looking for a reaction I think, in order to escalate it into the case of the murdered Santas.

Is there any point/chance that you/husband would send in a Christmas card and a little gift with a note saying something lighthearted about the flying Santas, and move on? - Probably not, but worth a try I think.

I did this when my neighbour of ten years who was a great woman, no bother at all, lost it because I put a small trellis on top of the fence, it was peeping over the top by six inches. Anyway she lost it completely. I took it down same day, I spoke to her husband and said, look I don't know what's going on but "Louise" is bang out of order and I won't be bullied, EVER", it is so out of character, I hope she is OK. Turns out she was having a psychotic break. All fine again now and she is well again. Just shows.

Ohmylovejune · 23/11/2023 17:14

Obviously they are being extremely unreasonable even to.the point its illegal.

However, it's also true that it's November! And lit outdoor decorations do have an impact to close neighbours, especially in terraces. We live next to some flats and at Christmas it's like Las Vegas. The lights flash directly into our lounge, dining room and bedrooms as we are situated slightly uphill from them. We've invested in black out curtains over the years, not.because we hate Christmas but because it's distracting and not our choice. In fact, I think it affects us more than it does them! Plus we have the "benefit" of all of them - a pick and mix of colour and style.

Luckily they generally don't put them.up until a week or so into December so we live and let live, but don't underplay how annoying they can be especially to someone who has a very short fuse.

Greenshake · 23/11/2023 17:15

@category12 but it is an established dispute and the Police have already been called by the neighbour…….

Zebedee55 · 23/11/2023 17:15

Shakennotstirred1 · 23/11/2023 15:04

Yes we do. We are homeowners as are they.

Well, if you move, you have to log these arguments for future buyers, which could lower the price you get.

ILJ28 · 23/11/2023 17:19

So, he said a stepladder knocked it over? But what did your CCTV show? Did he come into your garden?

MrsMarzetti · 23/11/2023 17:33

Jibo · 23/11/2023 14:31

Report them to 101 for criminal damage and threatening behaviour. And rehang it, taking photos of the fixings.

This.

Shakennotstirred1 · 23/11/2023 17:41

The plastic Santa wouldn't be my style either but DHs parents got it for my kids a few years ago & they love him. He's very simple, no bells or whistles!

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countrysidefields · 23/11/2023 17:46

Please report this to the police, and ask that they speak to your neighbours. This is criminal damage and borders on harassment.
Also keep a lot of any other disputes and I know it's hard to do when emotions are high but try and not let your husband get involved. It would be much better if you can show the police how unreasonable they are without retaliation.
I'm sorry you have experienced this, we had a few incidents with a past neighbour. He was unhinged and would try to wind my DH up. We involved police and thankfully that made him shut up, we moved soon after.
I hope you get this resolved and you can all enjoy your Christmas decorations

Shakennotstirred1 · 23/11/2023 17:56

Thegoodbadandugly · 23/11/2023 16:57

I agree, it's also odd that there's been no incidents for 2 years and then all of a sudden?? Are you sure the ornament didn't fall down with the wind?

Nope, DH caught him walking back in with his ladder & we have it all on cctv!

OP posts:
Shakennotstirred1 · 23/11/2023 18:01

Their decorations are up already & it's not a light up santa. It's a plain plastic wall Santa, very simple.

OP posts:
Shakennotstirred1 · 23/11/2023 18:03

ILJ28 · 23/11/2023 17:19

So, he said a stepladder knocked it over? But what did your CCTV show? Did he come into your garden?

No he stood on the street which obviously is public. We have him clearly cutting the string & the santa falling & banging into our window. The front gardens are tiny patches of grass!

OP posts:
Americano75 · 23/11/2023 18:15

Shakennotstirred1 · 23/11/2023 14:56

Not yet. Just came in mumsnet to vent. However the neighbours did ring the police when we installed security cameras. They said that we were filming their garden, police came viewed our cameras & told them there was no footage of their property on our cameras

So the stupid fuckers will already be known to the police for being time wasting, malicious reporters. Beautiful own goal.

So phone 101 right away.

User0000009 · 23/11/2023 18:17

Shakennotstirred1 · 23/11/2023 15:04

Yes we do. We are homeowners as are they.

What difference does that make? That because you both own the homes that kind of behaviour isn’t expected? That it’s only expected in council houses? I don’t get why you’d put that if not

BrendaHope · 23/11/2023 18:17

Personally, I would consider moving.

Please bear in mind that if you did decide to sell your house, you'd have to declare any reports made to police.

Shakennotstirred1 · 23/11/2023 18:28

User0000009 · 23/11/2023 18:17

What difference does that make? That because you both own the homes that kind of behaviour isn’t expected? That it’s only expected in council houses? I don’t get why you’d put that if not

It just means there is no landlords involved either side that can be used to mediate . That the police is the only escalation.

OP posts:
Lifeomars · 23/11/2023 18:28

AdobeWanKenobi · 23/11/2023 16:53

She'd be putting up with it a lot longer than that when the neighbour escalates.

These type of people want reactions. Playing music at all hours will only serve to give them a reason to do it back.

I can't stress enough OP, ignore, ignore, ignore. Put back your santa and go about your life as normal.

If you are thinking of moving in a few years time don't involve the Police. You said yourself you've had a couple of quiet years. Hopefully by not giving them the reaction they want they will get bored quickly and you can plod on until you can move.

I was being tongue in cheek, it is horrible living next door to unpleasant people, I do and one of the ways I cope is imagining ways I could make them as miserable as they make me. I don't do anything of course, I have even given up trying to reason with them. I just try to think that one day they will do a flit, the landlord will sell the house which is falling apart and someone decent buys it.

SweetcornFritter · 23/11/2023 18:42

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 23/11/2023 16:51

I’d send them a Christmas card. Genuinely. IT would be worth the stamp cost just to annoy him.
a normal
to all at number x

wishing you a truly wonderful and blessed Christmas. May it be filled with love, kindness and peace.

Best wishes
all at number Y

he will explode wondering how to respond

I’d do this but I’d sign it from “The Fat Cunt and his Missus”.

CormoranEllacott · 23/11/2023 18:44

User0000009 · 23/11/2023 18:17

What difference does that make? That because you both own the homes that kind of behaviour isn’t expected? That it’s only expected in council houses? I don’t get why you’d put that if not

I thought she meant that it’s harder to move and no landlord to complain to?

CormoranEllacott · 23/11/2023 18:46

SweetcornFritter · 23/11/2023 18:42

I’d do this but I’d sign it from “The Fat Cunt and his Missus”.

On a card with Father Christmas and Mrs Christmas on it 😂

Doteycat · 23/11/2023 18:52

Id be turnign my house into one of Santas grottos, one of those that makes the news ive so many xmas lights on them. Id have a singing Nativity in the front gardent and flashing lights all across my roof. Id have one of those projectoers that shines xmas santas accross my house all day and night.
Id be the biggest brighthest house in town.
Thats what id do.

cavalier · 23/11/2023 18:58

Shakennotstirred1 · 23/11/2023 14:25

We don't speak to our neighbours. They are very difficult people & after a string of incidents previously we are no contact.
However today DH was out our front garden (terrace house attached to our neighbours) & hung up a santa with fishing wire.
About an hour later we heard a crash against the window & DH ran out. The neighbour climed a little ladder & had cut the wire & the decoration crashed against the window.
DH roared what are you playing at. The neighbour was roaring the fishing line (which was invisible) was over his garden (it wasn't, was completely in our garden) & then proceeded to call my DH a fat c**r & called him out onto the footpath for a fight.
DH lost the rag back at him but thankfully didn't rise to the bait.
I'm very shaken & after a tough year was excited to put up the decorations with my girls.
Don't know what the next move should be, part of me wants to get even but I just don't want any more agro with them...

Hell is other people … as the saying goes.
record EVERYTHING times what was said etc …
keep note of everything said
threats of violence not a good look plus obscenities and damage to property
good luck

Ramalangadingdong · 23/11/2023 19:03

waitholdup · 23/11/2023 14:59

probably misspell of cunt

Well done. I too was trying to work it out.

Notquitegrownup2 · 23/11/2023 19:03

AdobeWanKenobi · 23/11/2023 16:53

She'd be putting up with it a lot longer than that when the neighbour escalates.

These type of people want reactions. Playing music at all hours will only serve to give them a reason to do it back.

I can't stress enough OP, ignore, ignore, ignore. Put back your santa and go about your life as normal.

If you are thinking of moving in a few years time don't involve the Police. You said yourself you've had a couple of quiet years. Hopefully by not giving them the reaction they want they will get bored quickly and you can plod on until you can move.

Yes to this. Tempting as revenge must be, (anyone else remembering Victor Meldrew's car in the skip??) ignoring and taking the moral high ground is far more likely to get you 2 more years conflict free. Sympathies. They sound awful people who must be very miserable. Enjoy your Santa.

JamieKnows · 23/11/2023 19:04

I went for fat crapper 😅

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