I don’t want to pay less National Insurance, I’d like a better funded NHS

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obviously I appreciate I’m in a position to think that, but I’m not on a huge wage. I’m glad if it helps people who are struggling but I’m also worried about the nhs, school funding, etc.

They don’t seem to be managing now, I can only imagine it will get worse. There are councils going bankrupt and cutting services, respite care, libraries, etc.

id rather carry on paying what I’m paying than risk such services been funded even less.

Maybe I’m being silly but our NI doesn’t officially go towards the NHS right? Tbh I’m not going to be happy if I’ve paid NI and get to retirement age only to be told the state pension is no longer in existence, otherwise I’d rather not pay NI at all and save it myself for my pension!

Got to be honest I’m also mystified who was voting for the tories as they do only act in the interests of the super rich, I think I’d have been surprised if public services hadn’t taken a major knock under the tories…They’re all about privatisation 🤷🏻‍♀️

I would like to see less money wasted in the nhs.
Too much money is wasted.
Paracetamol on prescription costing the nhs a fortune when it's what, 50p in a shop?
When someone goes home from hospital in a transport ambulance and they're using a hospital blanket the nhs don't want this back? Why? Wash them same as you would on the ward. Madness.

It's also a kick in the teeth for carers £139 earnings is after NI.

I'm happy to receive money from anyone who wants to pay more. God knows I could use some!

I agree but I am prescribed 240 tablets a month I can't go to the shops often enough to purchase that much.

And maybe a review of how the NHS money is spent, how much is spent in direct support of sick people and how much goes on box-ticking appointments which contribute almost nothing to making people better.

Interesting... As the self-employed "trades" of the North East would not help a homeless person. In fact, they actively try to create them by scamming and thieving the very last savings from people and ruining their homes in the process. Also, none of them pay ANY taxes and just shut up shop when the returns are due or when people try to recover the stolen money.

You must live somewhere near that poster where available NHS dentists abound and one recognises their GP in the face.

Tell me where, I'm prepared to move.

@Yalta yes I have and I agree there is a major problem with individual staff not listening to people.

I have spent years waiting for ankle surgery. Turns out I didn’t need the surgery because I had an undiagnosed condition causing the pain which because nobody ever looked at me holistically and considered my bladder issues, my ankle issues, my back issues, my hypermobility they never diagnosed me. A private osteopath did in five mins.

my daughter spent eight years going back and forth to the doctors with stomach issues before they finally tested her for coeliac disease and only then because I asked.

even now she’s in a load of pain with digestive issues which I think are linked to her connective tissue disorder and I’ve to,d the gp I think she has gastroparesis and asked for a referral but they refuse and prescribe her Rennies instead. Oh they have referred her to gynae for suspected endometriosis and it’s a year wait. She’s on blood thinners and badly anaemic probably due to internal bleeding caused by the blood thinners and she has asked to change blood thinners to ones with less side effects and been told no, as they’re all the same (which is a lie). Nobody listens to her or looks at her holistically. Nobody questions why an adult weighs 7stone and can’t eat due to pain. She has 4 chronic conditions, has nearly died from a PE and is on first name terms with the a&e staff now.

My dad spent over six months as an inpatient in an nhs hospital. I mean he died at the end of it all but they were nice to him while he was there.

I used to work for the nhs (still on the bank). So yes, I’d say I’ve got a lot of experience of the nhs. 🙈😁

So the Office for Budget responsibility has said the U.K. is heading for the highest ever post war tax burden. I mean that can’t be good.

I’m really not sure if you’re trolling or not but glad you’re ok. Enjoy your night in the hotel.

I want better funded public services full stop. Not just the NHS.

The Tories really are clueless.

The NHS is adequately funded. It's just very mismanaged.

I will do thanks.

I won't be made to feel guilty for having been successful. I don't see why I should have to pay more than I currently do each month in taxes. My tax bill is more than a lot of people earn already.

The NHS is over funded and poorly managed and you'd rather give them more. Personally I'd prefer them to remove the pointless fat cats and diversity/ gender identity politics managers first before I up my contributions.

So true and it applies to most areas where public money is wasted on vanity projects.

I do get that. I guess we have a household income of around 100k so I could take the view that I pay plenty of tax. But regardless of how much I pay I’d rather pay a little bit more (which I can afford) if it helps society as a whole. Guess I’m a socialist.

This is absolutely correct.
I’m a volunteer in our local hospital, big NHS trust. The waste is horrific.
Massive rainbows being currently painted on the hospital walls (costing thousands), huge TV screens installed in the entrance where no one stops to look I’m talking 90 something inch TV. A million security guards sitting round drinking tea.
Sodexo cleaners all doing the same. The hospital is filthy.
Diversity managers left right and centre…. I could go on.
To add insult to injury they say they can’t afford a Christmas do for us Volunteer’s. We’re only asking for a get together with tea and buns.
The waste is shameful. Please don’t tell me the NHS is under funded.
NI contributions don’t pay for the NHS anyway.

No nhs dentists and different gps everytime (when you spend days trying to get through to get an appointment)

but … it’s south east so house and rent prices are sky high so everything has to go through books to secure either of those.

I agree.

Unfortunately the NHS in its current form is fucked beyond repair.

That's such a lazy thing to shout but is guaranteed to get your echo chamber clapping like a bunch of performing seals.

If the Tories were only acting for the super-rich, how come the headline measure is a reduction in tax on income from employment between what £12-50k? How come the tax burden is the most penal for generations? Why is IHT been frozen for years? Why is the residents nil rate band tapered down to nil after £3m? Why is the top rate of income tax sitting at 45%, dividend tax 39.5% and capital gains tax at 20% and 28% for property and trusts?

Honestly it's embarrassing isn't it, the green eyed left hating anyone that's made themselves any money. Christ, the amount of tax my other half and I already pay and there is some notion that we should owe more? Why? So people can sit in their dead end jobs contributing minimal tax to these services whilst getting topped up by us?

I'm pregnant and will not get free childcare because my OH is over the bracket, yet pays a significant amount of tax so others kids can go to nursery for free. So we're effectively paying twice, because how dare we earn ourselves a decent living.

I would happily opt out of every public service going and fund ourselves, at least we'd get something for our money.

That's before you have indirect costs that penalise the taxpayer but give no benefit, like the costs of fixing pothole damage to my car because, from the £40 billion the government takes in motoring taxes, it only allocates £12 billion to roads, the additional £25 in parking charges because A&E takes ten hours to see me, the direct and indirect costs of crime because the police no longer pursue fraudsters, most shoplifters and a lot of 'minor' criminal damage.

And you can be as smug as you like about that, I believe in fairness, and being penalised for earning a decent wage, or having savings, isn't very fair to me. Why should my parents, for instance, lose the home they spent their life paying for in care fees, whilst the chap next door that never had a job is paid for by the state? Equality works both ways. I'll be fair when the system is.

Our higher rate tax payers already pay more than those countries. So all you basic rate tax payers - put your money where your mouth is. Pay up to match.