Abortion Support Network- has it always been for helping people or did they change recently?

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I’m a monthly donor for years. Only now have I read one of their emails and discovered that the word woman is nowhere in sight.
It bothers me. Maybe that makes me an arse. I emailed them about it, but I’m not sure I feel comfortable spending my money on a charity that can’t use the word woman when talking about unwanted pregnancy. AIBU to cancel my donation and if so who should it go to? Thanks!

Im a monthly donor. I hate that they won't use 'woman' but frankly they're doing work that's desperately needed and for me the need is too urgent to worry about the decision to use stupid language. At least women who need abortion know they are pregnant - they're not likely to misunderstand the issue or be excluded because of this.

I hope very much that this ridiculous and antifeminist language will fade away like the fad it is. In the meantime, women still need abortion.

So there is no other organisation that does the same work @PermanentTemporary ?

I donate to Abortion Rights as well. The word 'woman' was common in their documents a few years ago but has been fading away - these days 'women' only appears far down any page.

They explicitly link trans rights and abortion rights by shoving them together as movements for bodily autonomy. I'm not thick, I see the logic, but to me it's so shallow - the belief that a woman's body isn't one if you say so has zero to do with the long fight for our rights over our bodies which were denied because we are women.

So I don't have an answer for you. I don't do many boycotts- to me, a boycott is something I don't commit to lightly, and the only one I do is Nestlé. I won't remove my money from younger women who need it, especially if they are part if a movement which is determined to cut them off from older women.

Maybe they don’t want to put young pregnant girls off? Would that make you feel better?

If someone is pregnant and needs support who cares what they identify as. Contacting them to ask, ffs. 🙄

What the hell is wrong with contacting them @Clarabell77? I haven't but if I feltvi should, I would. Charities should listen to their donors, whatever they decide to do.

I personally find it insulting. Only women can get pregnant. Therefore only women can have an abortion. World's gone absolutely bonkers.

Even if they are mentally ill, they should be grudged any support?

Wow. Scary levels of hatred coming from you.

It definitely used to be for women.

I used to be a host. Never once hosted someone who wasn’t a woman.

Oh dear, the mask has slipped very quickly from you - throwing insults at people you don't agree with.

I understand OP, it's very frustrating to realise that a charity or cause you aligned with are supporting unscientific nonsense. You are well within your rights to find out how much of their time and resources is going towards pushing gender bollocks instead of their actual cause. It may be that they are just virtue signalling, like many charities do.

All these organisations disappearing the word woman in a bid for 'inclusiveness' are being ridiculous.

If you are inclusive, you add provision/representation etc you don't take it away.

If they want to show support for the incredibly tiny number of Trans Men and non-binary people seeking abortion support then instead of disappearing the words women and woman they need to add the other people.

"We support women, trans men and non-binary people to access abortion services and support."

Yes it is more wordy but it is also the only way to be inclusive.

Yes. The inclusion of the female categories who don't identify as women does upset me because I believe the separation of women from each other is damaging, but I'm never going to need these organisations' services again. If they feel they must say things that way, then I can either get involved or donate and keep my counsel.

My friend's spouse who is now nonbinary will never need these organisations. They're a father of two. But the girls who identify as nonbinary do need them.

In fact what they tend to do is just reduce mention of sex or gender altogether, as if pregnancy is something that might just happen to anyone. Lord help us.

yanbu to have your opinion maggie and to donate wherever you like

i do agree with permanent

They don't seem to see the need to do that when talking about male specific conditions.

Look at Prostate cancer adverts, they'll use the word 'Men' repeatedly in a short piece of text.

Yet when it's about being inclusive in female specific matters we get: chest feeding, Birthing people, uterus haters, Cervix owners, People with the capacity for pregnancy.......

I am a woman, a mother, a female

You also take away the ability for other groups to fully understand the message. If you speak English as a second language or if you have a learning disability you may find it more difficult to recognise that a message aimed at 'people with a cervix' rather than 'women' is meant for you.

We have actually reached the completely ludicrous state where the messaging being sent by some activist groups regarding inclusivity is that Trans Women are Women and Females are Cis-Women, so we really are losing the words that have historically always described our sex.

If you speak English as a second language or if you have a learning disability you may find it more difficult to recognise that a message aimed at 'people with a cervix' rather than 'women' is meant for you.

But it doesn’t matter if these women die as a result, because women’s lives are less important than men’s fantasies.

Thanks for all of your input, the helpful and the hateful (which reaffirms why I don’t get or understand people on the other side, thank you @Clarabell77 for helping me make my mind up). I did email to ask their reasoning and will decide based on their answer.
I do agree with @PermanentTemporary that actual women and girls - who are biologically everyone that unwanted pregnancy affects no matter how they mentally identify - need support. Always. I just struggle with the loss of the word woman . It offends me on a very basic level and I don’t feel comfortable giving money to a charity that offends me, maybe I’ll look for other options. Until then I’ll carry on.

Women's helathcare is already pretty meh in UK. Things like this will make it worse.
Women are simply not important.
Not important enough to get proper anesthetics for painful procedures, not important enough to have own safe single sex services, not important enough to be listened to properly, not important enough to be mentioned.

What a ridiculous post. I'm early 30s and I also know that only biological women have the ability to get pregnant.