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AIBU to worry about vaping indoors?

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yetanotherdaytoday · 16/11/2023 17:47

DP has recently given up smoking (outside) - great.

He's now vaping, which he does indoors.

Should I be worried about health risks with him vaping round the kids or is it OK?

DP thinks it's fine and totally different from tobacco. But I mean, they used to say cigarettes were good for the throat! He counters that by saying vapes have been properly tested. Is this true?

What do other vapers here do?

AIBU to worry about it being a risk to the kids?

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Verv · 17/11/2023 19:29

Vaping indoors is fine. You exhale vapour which dissipates quickly and doesn’t contain carcinogens.

i vape indoors but I don’t have kids. I wouldn’t vape around them in case it sent an “ok to vape” message.
I do it because it helps me to stop smoking but I wouldn’t like to normalise it around children.

imo health risks - no
influencing next gen risk - yes

ladeluge · 17/11/2023 19:33

OK, so what's dangerous about the steam from a shower/bath that it needs an alarm? I cannot call it a "smoke" alarm though! 🤔

EssentialGarage · 17/11/2023 19:45

We clean cars, when people vape inside them there is a film over everything, it gets so bad you can't see out of the windscreen.

I don't fancy that in my child's lungs

sandybeach12 · 18/11/2023 09:50

ladeluge · 17/11/2023 18:38

@sandybeach12 How can vapour, similar I suppose to steam from cooking/kettle cause smoke alarms to activate? They are SMOKE alarms. Just curious!

We've got heat detector in our kitchen and then smoke detectors everywhere else, that's why vape smoke doesn't set off the kitchen alarm but it sets off the one in the hallway which is closest to our lounge which is where my husband use to vape

ladeluge · 18/11/2023 10:59

sandybeach12 · 18/11/2023 09:50

We've got heat detector in our kitchen and then smoke detectors everywhere else, that's why vape smoke doesn't set off the kitchen alarm but it sets off the one in the hallway which is closest to our lounge which is where my husband use to vape

I'm intrigued now! So the heat in the house, i.e. radiators, underfloor, open fire, log burner etc. don't set the heat detectors off, but steam from a vape does??? Anyway I didn't realise that vape steam was HOT.

Sorry if I am coming across all stupid like, but I cannot work it out at all, Do the heat detectors detect heat above a certain level maybe? That still doesn't explain how vape emissions are so hot as to set them off.

I need an answer to this, or I won't be able to get on with my chores....😀

LameBorzoi · 18/11/2023 11:05

No one really knows, because they haven't been around for long enough. They should be safer than cigarettes, but I certainly wouldn't be happt with some vaping in front of my child.

sandybeach12 · 18/11/2023 11:20

@ladeluge haha, so the heat detector in the kitchen only detects heat but it has to be a certain degree of heat like a fire, it won't detect you having your heating on or cooking something and it burns unless it then turns into a fire. I'm not 100% sure about open log burner though because we don't have one. Vape is just smoky, it's not hot. Hope you can get on with your chores now 🤣

jannier · 18/11/2023 11:37

Does he think it's a good idea to role model capping as a cool grown up thing to do? Would he sit getting drunk in front of his kids because you're there to care for them so no physical harm?
Vapes still have nicotine so are still addictive. People are hospitalised with jelly lung it's not normal to inhale vapour that is wet into the lungs ....we are continually finding out things we were told were safe are no longer and advice is that while better than smoking it's better not to do it at all yet they make appealing flavours kids love and it smells sweet so kids are trying it i wouldn't be modelling it as a cool thing to do and j wouldn't want thr stink in my home......does he not respect your feelings?

Janeandme · 18/11/2023 11:50

Some of these answers are quite extreme, I mean it’s vaporised water with some flavourings and nicotine, and nicotine itself isn’t harmful in aappropriate quantities that’s not what makes cigs carcinogenic.

for me it’s fine to vape indoors as long as it’s not big fat clouds. It’s little different to boiling a kettle or pot, expect in much smaller quantities, I can’t believe someone even wrote it would raise the humidity in your house, that’s nonsense.

as for the smell. Generally it’s quite pleasant , fruity, and often can’t even be smelled as it dissipates like any other water vapour very quickly.

Sofaz34 · 18/11/2023 12:31

I vape inside and I vape Alot because either so easy to do. I vape so much I felt unhealthy as in my lungs hurt and my heart rate was very high and I couldn't exercise well. I got pregnant and the midwifes didn't seem to see.an issue with vaping if it reduces my stress which it did. They siad there arr thousands of chemicals in cigarettes but only a few in vape ( even better if you get the zero nicotine). Luckily I decided to give up anyway and I'm very glad I did as I needed theat push to do so. The issue is that it becomes so addictive as a habit and its exposing your kids to it making them more likely to take it up. I don't think it's necessarily dangerous to do every now and then but then we haven't got any research on long term issues as they haven't been around for long enough. I know I felt pain in my lungs but this has now cleared up and I was doing it continually. I would encourage him to continue if it helps stop smoking but try to get him to set his own limits e.g. not vaping in front of the kids or vaping outside. It's way harder to change those things when they have become a habit.

AntonFeckoff · 18/11/2023 13:06

W0tnow · 16/11/2023 18:30

The problem is that you don’t really ‘finish’ a vape like you do a cigarette. You end up inhaling nicotine non stop and isn’t the danger you become even more addicted? Especially with the ‘nice’ tasting ones.

This is what happened to me. I was a chain smoker but gave up when I was 23 (started young!) I managed without for five years then stupidly accepted a cigarette from a friend on a night out. After that I only smoked socially, somehow. I was worried about the health effects so bought a vape which I intended to only use when out drinking.

Within a week I was hopelessly addicted and I was never without the bloody thing. I was so embarrassed by it but couldn’t stop. I switched to nicotine pouches and have them on the go constantly now. Marginally better as at least they’re invisible. I’m desperate to stop but I don’t know how as I seem to get addicted to every NRT going, and I think cold Turkey would kill me.

ThickSkinnedSoWhat · 18/11/2023 13:16

AntonFeckoff · 18/11/2023 13:06

This is what happened to me. I was a chain smoker but gave up when I was 23 (started young!) I managed without for five years then stupidly accepted a cigarette from a friend on a night out. After that I only smoked socially, somehow. I was worried about the health effects so bought a vape which I intended to only use when out drinking.

Within a week I was hopelessly addicted and I was never without the bloody thing. I was so embarrassed by it but couldn’t stop. I switched to nicotine pouches and have them on the go constantly now. Marginally better as at least they’re invisible. I’m desperate to stop but I don’t know how as I seem to get addicted to every NRT going, and I think cold Turkey would kill me.

Honestly try nicotine patches with nicotine mints for really hard times. I found keeping my hands and mind busy with colouring in, crosswords, knitting and crochet (I already did this, it's not for everyone 😂) and that type of thing really helpful. The first week or two were the toughest. Then put away the money you'd have spent for a while and treat yourself to celebrate.

VickyEadieofThigh · 18/11/2023 13:25

volunteersruz · 16/11/2023 18:41

It is far far far preferable to smoking but for me they can trigger coughing and lung irritation ( i have lung damage from my own parents smoking when i was young!) . No health professional is going to discourage people from stopping smoking and starting to vape but that doesn't mean health professionals think its ok to vape around children.
The other point is why does he think its ok to normalise addictive behaviour around his children?
We know full well that parental smoking is one of the main predictors for children starting to smoke and it will be exactly the same for vaping. Once someone gets used to inhaling stuff into their lungs they are far more likely to think its ok to inhale other things , or is he going to be happy if they start smoking weed later on!

I also have lung damage from constant exposure to cigarette smoke in the house when I was growing up. Vapour from vapes irritates my chest and makes me cough.

It's wrong to do it indoors and especially around children - especially as there just isn't enough research data available on the long term effects.

Gcsunnyside23 · 18/11/2023 13:54

People used to think smoking was good for you until evidence and many years proved otherwise. Likewise with vaping they can claim it's fine as there's no evidence YET. But either way ingesting fumes is never good for you. Vaping industry is completely unregulated and god knows what people are smoking half the time. Also your husband is projecting a bad habit on your kids and normalising it.

CherryCokeFanatic · 18/11/2023 14:04

Love a vape indoors with a coffee. Bliss

Give him a chance OP

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