To be cross at nursery for not administering antibiotics?

[artline200]

I have a one year old daughter who unfortunately has frequent UTIs and consequently is often on antibiotics. We’ve started getting really good at catching them early, so my daughter is absolutely fine and happy in herself, well enough for nursery, but needs antibiotics x3 a day. Logically that is one dose when she wakes up, one before bed and one around lunchtime, but the nursery have said they are not even allowed to have it on the premises. Is this common policy? It seems a bit ridiculous to me.

School finishes at 1530ish, nursery could be 1730 or 1800 though

In many cases wouldn't this just pass it on to wrap around care? Or are parents meant to dose at 8am, half five or 6pm, then wake the child in the middle of the night?

Tbh schools won’t see that as their problem.

I don’t make the policy. Just saying what many schools (worked peripatetic in many schools over 20 years) have as their policy and their reasons for it.

Ours have the same policy and it
drives me potty because I have a child who gets abscesses and it’s so much better if we catch them early with antibiotics!

This.

Entirely different setting but at work we aren't even allowed to give an aspirin to another person, and they aren't allowed to be in sight or in drawers / cupboards. In your bag, for personal use only.

My son used to get a prophylactic dose of antibiotics to reduce the risk of utis. Nursery gave it to him everyday (I just had to fill out a form). My dd also recently had antibiotics for an ear infection which she needed to take for 7 days. No temperature or signs of being unwell (just a lot of ear snot) again nursery happy to give this providing I had administered the first dose.

That's an unsustainable policy for a nursery though and it would prevent any child with an allergy, asthma, diabetes etc from attending. It's not like these kids can go and get their own bloody inhaler or insulin is it?

This has always been the rule for any school I've worked in too. It's odd they won't let you come in though.

My kids went to 3 different nursery/preschool settings and all of them would give medication fine. Ds2 was a complete pickle about swallowing the bitter orange one for me, but the nursery got him to take it every time. They were much better at it than me!

A dose at breakfast, a dose when you pick her up from nursery and a dose at bedtime will be fine.

It might not be fine though it rather depends on what time the child is collected from nursery. Collected at 3 or 4pm then there's probably enough time for a second and third dose at home. Collected at 5 or 6pm and in bed by 7.30-8pm then that's far too short of a window for 2 doses.

DDs primary school won't give them unless it's 5 or more times a day, her private Nursery before that was the same.

I would go in and give it to my child regardless. The risk of sepsis far outweighs their stupid policy.

Our nursery gives antibiotics - as long as in the original packaging with the proper prescription label on and the child is well enough to attend without a fever or anything like that. They are excluded for the first 48hrs though.

Previous nursery was the same although it only excluded for 24hrs.

Your nursery sound useless @artline200

You could do one dose in morning, one on pick up and one at bedtime surely?

As I said above and as others have pointed out that entirely depends on what time the child is collected. Most children in my son's nursery are collected after 5pm as I imagine many are up and down the country after their parents have finished work so it wouldn't leave enough time for 2 doses.

How stupid. That’s just a ridiculous “policy” they’ve made up.

Because all of the schools and nurseries here have the policy here GPs will, if necessary put times on a prescription so it goes on the label

My DD currently has one that has a noon dose specifically mentioned so school will give her it

If the dose is 3X a day... one before school, one after then one before bed.
That's how our school dealt with it. They would only administer a dose if it was 4x per day.

That’s ridiculous. School will give anything prescribed that needs to be given in my experience, and when DD had bad conjunctivitis DH and I popped up to school every two hours to give her them in reception. I can’t believe nursery won’t even accommodate you going and administering them, that’s just ridiculous! But I remember nursery wanting the kids off at even a hint of illness, whereas schools will happily have them unless a leg is falling off in the drive for good attendance!

Exactly, and the same with school/wrap around. School refuses and they could be dosed on arrival to wrap around, wrap around refuses and what happens then? A child being woken late at night for medication is not a suitable solution.

That's a very uncharitable interpretation of what the OP said.

For a small child to be treated for something early, it is necessary for the parent to "catch it early", so they can take the child to a doctor as the child cannot take themselves, can they?

As well as pain/fever, the amount of wee, colour of the wee and smell of the wee can be a give away for UTIs, so OP may have noticed a familiar change and taken her girl to the GP before the poor thing showed signs of fever/pain.

I think that’s ridiculous.
Surely loads of kids need meds at some point.

Our school administers all different types of medicines but we do have someone who had to do training in it (even though we all administer them).

People keep saying this, no matter how many times we point out that that doesn't work with nursery, where most are collected after 5pm and they're young so going to bed around 7.

the doctor can advise the timing so that nursery are not involved.