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Stingy husband

87 replies

AgentDanaScully · 15/11/2023 13:31

First time posting, so please be gentle (but honest!) My husband has always been overly cautious with money. He had quite a modest upbringing (definitely no growing up with a silver spoon in his mouth or handouts from the bank of mum and dad) and everything he has, he has earned, which I respect greatly. I work almost full time and have a good salary but he still earns about 3 times more than me. We both work hard and paid off our mortgage several years ago (we've been together 18 years and bought our first house 16 years ago).
We should be able to enjoy life more, but he is obsessed by saving! He wants to retire early, as do I, but there needs to be a balance. Other than a joint account for household bills/food etc, which we both pay into proportionate to income, we have always kept separate finances (his decision). For the last 12 years, I have paid for most of our two children's clothes, uniforms, and most of their activities (until I asked him to pay for some of their clubs a few years back as I was on a lower salary back then and constantly ending the month with nothing in my account, while he had loads of disposable income available). Last month, I showed him my personal account statement to evidence how many things I buy for the children and how little I spend on myself. He was a bit sheepish and offered to pay for the cleaner (another expense I have solely paid for the last 10 years) and the cat's food! He has now finally agreed that things for the children can come out of the joint account and we both top it up 50:50 at the end of the month. I questioned as to why it took this long for him to realise that the previous system was unfair, and he didn't really have an answer.
After I had my second child (now 10), I would've loved to have had a career break to be at home with her for a year or two, knowing we had the means to do it, but there was no commitment to sharing finances from my husband...he said it would be easier to have one parent stay at home, but when I asked him how this would work in practicality, say if I needed my hair cut or new clothes, and he laughed and said "oh, I'll give you a handout". I would've been reduced to asking him for money so I ended up leaving the career I had at the time as it wasn't compatible with family life and trying to set up a business whilst juggling two young children.
I am not by any stretch of the imagination a frivolous spender...I go to the hairdresser's two/three times a year and only buy new clothes (high street) when something literally wears out! The thought of having to ask him for the basics was too humiliating...this still grates on me all these years later.
I would love for us to move house which we can easily afford, but my husband is not interested. I am always careful what I order in restaurants as I still remember an incident years ago, when he criticised me for choosing the most expensive dish on the menu (I chose it because it was what I wanted to eat!) He wants to squirrel as much money away as possible, even though I have pointed out that life is short (my Mum died at 68) and sometimes, you have to live a bit in the here and now. I feel like he has the ultimate control on the purse strings because he is the one who contributes the most money (he pretty much said this at one point) and if he doesn't think something for the family is worthy of spending on, it doesn't happen. He is squirreling away crazy amounts into his pension, which he says will support us both to retire early before my pension kicks in. I worry about what will happen 20 years down the line as to how much he will dictate what we spend it on.
I get that I am in a very fortunate situation with everything going on in the world and I apologise if my post offends anyone. However, I am starting to wonder whether my husband is using finances as a means of control. He is a wonderful person in most other ways and an amazing Dad, but this is coming between us.
Is he right to want more control over the finances as he continues the most, or am I the one being unreasonable?

OP posts:
whittingtonmum · 16/11/2023 18:13

I have a stingy husband and I buy loads of stuff (essential kids stuff, healthy meals etc) from my own money - not from the joint account. It totally sucks but I can't deal with an argument every single time the kids need a pair of shoes. Sometimes I manage to send him to pay for stuff with my 'don't you dare argue' face but most of the time I just pay for it. I am sure I will regret this approach when I retire or when he divorces me. Don't marry a stingy man is my advice.

HerMammy · 16/11/2023 18:23

He is a wonderful person in most other ways and an amazing Dad
He really isn't. I'm outraged on your behalf, you're being financially abused whilst he hoards money.
Divorce will level the field.

Youcannotbeseriousreally · 16/11/2023 18:31

I’m in the middle of dinner so only read the first couple of pages of replies but I just cannot believe people live like this!!

As PPs have said , here information is key. Gather everything, start a spreadsheet. See a solicitor.

id absolutely be taking the shitbag for at least 70% of all the assets and walking away into a lovely life with my kids and my head held high

billy1966 · 16/11/2023 18:33

An amazing Dad?

That refuses to contribute towards his children for years and financially abuses their mother?

Amazing on MN is code for an absolutely abusive prick that deluded women write in threads they start about their awful treatment.

He's a lot of things, an amazing father is not one of them.

billy1966 · 16/11/2023 18:54

I realise my advanced age makes me bad minded but as others also mentioned he won't change in retirement.

What about if YOUR health fails first and you are left at his mercy, needing therapies that you can well afford but he refuses to pay for?

This happens.

Mean men get meaner.

I have a few friends who have mentioned having to be VERY firm with parents when it came to house and garden maintenance etc.

Refusing to be imposed upon when they worked full-time, had young families to care for, just because their mean father, doesn't want to pay for services when they have pots of money.

Frail older women become even more vulnerable to financially abusive husbands in retirements.

One friends father didn't want to pay for a nursing home when he could be looked after at home by his wife and daughters.

He was put in a nursing home and his wife's final years were lovely as she was encouraged by her two daughters to spend HER money on herself.

friendsfiend · 16/11/2023 19:05

@AgentDanaScully this is awful to read. The actual money issue aside, the whole thing screams that he doesn't value or respect you or your kids.

He's been willing for you all to go without whilst he builds his pension and savings.

I'm sorry but he's a shitty husband and dad and there's nothing wonderful or amazing about him because this stuff is fundamental. It's speaks very clearly about his character and values.

That story about the restaurant is horrible and mean. Any decent person would never shame their partner like that.

I'm sorry OP but I'd be thinking about how I can manage after divorce because if this marriage ends I can guarantee he'll play dirty.

user1471538283 · 16/11/2023 19:24

God he sounds joyless.

You've done all this and he begrudges you a nice dinner.

If you do stay you might get to retirement and be in a worse position because he will have his savings and a big pension and you won't.

TheresaWa · 16/11/2023 21:18

Go through your bank statements and ask the bank for all of the past 10 years and ask him for that money with excuses from his side and start immediately not contributing to the joint account until he pays you back his half. He doesn't make the rules about retrospective or not.

determinedtomakethiswork · 16/11/2023 21:25

What would happen to his pension if he died?

3luckystars · 16/11/2023 21:29

I think this thread is heading in a bad direction.

CancelledRainPaintDay · 16/11/2023 21:50

Horses are an expensive hobby

What does your DH do for his hobby (apart from counting his savings ?)

AgentDanaScully · 16/11/2023 22:00

He doesn't really have any hobbies. He is very introverted, likes gaming, films, books, that's about it. He doesn't have friends locally (most of his friends are scattered around) and he doesn't really socialise without me.

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Densol57 · 16/11/2023 22:02

My kids father was exactly like that !
I used to always say "you'll have a stroke before you are 60 fretting over money like you do "
I left him when he was 45
He had a stroke at 59. I am now his Power of Attorney !
A mean mean scrooge like man. I teach my boys never ever to be like their father
He'd never change
Meanness is bred into people

AgentDanaScully · 16/11/2023 22:07

Granted, horses are an expensive hobby! Although I am in the very fortunate position that, other than hay contributions during the winter, her owner doesn't ask that I pay anything for my part-loan horse. It's the children's riding that costs the money!

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PinkArt · 16/11/2023 22:23

Fucking hell, this site makes you realise how many women are married to absolute cunts. Financially abusive cunts who don't seem to even like their wife and children, let alone love, in this case.
I'd be divorcing him and getting my fair share of what should have been treated as family money all along.

Nanny0gg · 16/11/2023 22:44

PinkArt · 16/11/2023 22:23

Fucking hell, this site makes you realise how many women are married to absolute cunts. Financially abusive cunts who don't seem to even like their wife and children, let alone love, in this case.
I'd be divorcing him and getting my fair share of what should have been treated as family money all along.

^^This

Divorce - hopefully you'll get half.

TheSpikySpinosaurus · 17/11/2023 07:51

PinkArt · 16/11/2023 22:23

Fucking hell, this site makes you realise how many women are married to absolute cunts. Financially abusive cunts who don't seem to even like their wife and children, let alone love, in this case.
I'd be divorcing him and getting my fair share of what should have been treated as family money all along.

This.

Think about it. This man, who promised to share all that he has and all that he is with you in marriage, is not keeping his vows. He's happy to see you suffer, go without, and pay far more than your fair share while he prioritises himself and keeps his money for himself.

He is FINANCIALLY ABUSIVE.

It didn't matter why he acts like this; the important thing is that he does.

You have pointed it out but he can't or won't change.

You deserve better.

Blahblahblah2 · 17/11/2023 07:57

He sounds utterly awful. Please divorce him while you're still relatively young, take half of everything he's been squirrelling away, and then you and your children can enjoy your lives. I couldn't fathom spending the rest of my life with a person like this.

CandyLeBonBon · 17/11/2023 07:57

AgentDanaScully · 16/11/2023 22:07

Granted, horses are an expensive hobby! Although I am in the very fortunate position that, other than hay contributions during the winter, her owner doesn't ask that I pay anything for my part-loan horse. It's the children's riding that costs the money!

I'd kill for this arrangement!

CandyLeBonBon · 17/11/2023 07:58

<misses point of thread>

HerMammy · 17/11/2023 08:08

@PinkArt
Fully agree, every day someone posts about an utter cunto of a man, but but he's a wonderful dad!!
Wonderful dads don't see their wife and kids go without whilst he has £30k squirrelled away.
Also, too many of these men are police officers, not good.

Thisbastardcomputer · 17/11/2023 08:37

I think it becomes an illness being stingy, my nieces husband takes it to a ridiculous level. She lies constantly about how much things cost.

I give her things for the charity shop, then I see her wearing them, I'm not particularly bothered about this but she should ask. What I object to is her selling them on eBay.

There's been times when we've been out and she's spent £8 on her card, which notifies his phone and he's rung her to find out what she's up to.

If we have lunch out we take turns in paying, my turn she'll order a full meal, her turn it's a coffee and cake.

HerMammy · 17/11/2023 08:39

@Thisbastardcomputer
What I object to is her selling them on eBay. really? she obviously needs the money, and your attitude to her ordering more food is nasty especially when you know she's financially abused.
Either help and don't judge or stay away.

Strictlymad · 17/11/2023 08:53

By law in divorce (pre nups aside) all assets are joint and spilt that way, therefore by law in marriage all assets are joint! I just do not understand people like this! It’s your wife, your kids, yet he’s sitting in his counting house with his pots of gold! So selfish! Two days after our wedding myself and my husband went to the bank, set up a joint account and transferred all savings, all income and all outgoings to it. We withdraw 100 a month each as frivolous money- grabbing a coffee, lunch with work makes etc, getting each other a small gift, that can’t been seen on joint statement, but the rest of our earning are joint, just as the work we put into the house and family is joint! If you are going to be petty about it I would say he owes you wages for the years you were part time doing childcare and housework!

Backagain23 · 17/11/2023 09:12

Thisbastardcomputer · 17/11/2023 08:37

I think it becomes an illness being stingy, my nieces husband takes it to a ridiculous level. She lies constantly about how much things cost.

I give her things for the charity shop, then I see her wearing them, I'm not particularly bothered about this but she should ask. What I object to is her selling them on eBay.

There's been times when we've been out and she's spent £8 on her card, which notifies his phone and he's rung her to find out what she's up to.

If we have lunch out we take turns in paying, my turn she'll order a full meal, her turn it's a coffee and cake.

Jeez, my aunt would be actively searching for sneaky ways to help me, not bitching about me online for trying to look after myself 🙄