to be a bit annoyed that when people that work with the general public, are sworn etc, most people just stand there and do not speak up!

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save if you saw a man shout fuck off bitch in the face of a shop/bakery worker or nurse or whoever.

would you say anything?

i would, and i do not understand why other do not.

i was in my local pharmacy the other day, and some twat was swearing at the assistant and being really rude, everyone just stood there saying nothing. i couldn't believe it!

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i think mother funk has summed it up perfectly.
say in a situation like mrs rufflos id hope that if i intervened then if said person turned on me someone else could also intervene if needed

better than a whole bus full of people doing nothing.
if everyone had the same attitude there would be no problem

oh my god tenacious, im so sorry to hear that.

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tenacious,i can't believe your neighbours didn't want to get involved, those bastards, personally i partiaclly blame them too. i fucking hate bystanders.

Thanks for answering my question MF, the reason I asked was because it was relevant to why i answered as i did, because I always have my dc's with me, i'm not saying i would ignore the situation completely, of course i'd ring the police ffs!

So if you've answered the same as i did with kids in tow I seriously cannot see why i'm being lambasted? And exactly because its because I worked with mentally ill, violent people I know how unpredictable and unexpected their behaviour can be. FWIW, before kids and without them i would, as i'd said earlier, as would my DH.

Not sure if you meant to be sarcastic r.e your sister? I also have mentally ill, violent members of my family, I would'nt expect a random mother with young children to confront them in public if they were having a pop at a policeman for example. There are all different types of mental illness, maybe your sister is/is'nt violent, but as you now her you're likely to now her triggers, ways to calm her down etc.

tenacious, i started this thread, think more about just general assholes that go round shouting at nurses and tesco girls etc. because it makes them feel big etc.
and they know they can't shout back. and that i find the bystanders attitudes shocking.

but you have made me realise i gos far, far deeper than this.

i really hope your story makes others think twice. like you said it wouldn't of took much for someone to shout out oh whats going on, or the police are on the way.

Tenacious, don't know if you've read the whole post but I said i always have my Dc's with me, and that would be the only time i would'nt intervene. As for 'normal' anti-social behaviour i would always intervene.

Motherfunk I seriously hope you did not think I meant 'confront' as in just go up for a random chat with a known mentally ill person, of course i bloody would, my dc's know and respect that are many different people that make up society.

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I knew I had seen this statistic somewhere.

"In 2006 there were over 10,000 physical attacks on shopworkers and 62,000 reported incidents of verbal abuse. This was a substantial reduction on the previous year "

from here

From my own experiences I would guess actual levels of verbal abuse in particular are higher, and to a certain extent physical as well. I have never witnessed anyone report anything, except dp once, when he got punched in the face.

Both of us (though now neither of us work in shops now partly as a result of the abuse) have had things thrown at us on many an occassion. Being screamed/sworn at, depending on where you work, can be a daily thing.

USDAW (union of shop workers) has been campaigning for a few years to get this recognised.

I now work in a similar customer facing position. I still get abuse - though my manager takes a hard line on it adn it gets reported.

Dp is on phonelines - and all he can say is well at least they can't actually hit him.

I dread to think what it is like for nurses/doctors and those in emergency services.

(btw that statistic relates to UK). Worked it out and that's over 27 shopworkers per day getting physically attacked.

And those are the ones who report it.

Tenacious, if you would take the trouble to actually read my post re: the woman in the bakery I said good for the poster, i normally do, but that would be the only occasion i would'nt as i normally have my dc's with me. I don't actually recollect stating that its unreasonable to expect society to make a stand! but you've obviously got a bee in you're bonnet about something i've said!

armadilloman, 27 shopworkers per day getting physically attacked. that is outrageous.

really when you think about it ther is a nasty under current of people that stand back and do nothing in allsorts of ways

people that have witnessed crimes but do not want to testify
people that suspect a child maybe abused but don't act incase they get it wrong
people that see collegues at work say getting bullied by the boss yet say nothing
people that know people who commit benefit fruad etc but don't report it

even the other week i was in town a mother, well i assume it was the mother was screaming in her babys face saying, i don't know what you want.and i mean really screaming really she then threw a toy at the baby, ok it was only a soft toy but still.

tenacious,

here here to

"how do you get 'society' to take a stand if individuals won't? We are all society."

very well put.

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Yes very well put I agree re, we are all society and i always would in that one exception, i'm not banging on about it, i'm not fuelling societies paranoia, I said that was the only exception, I'm not re-counting horror stories?
Op asked opinion I gave mine, which, considering the vast majority was not exactly doing nothing, I said that it would be the only time I WOULD'NT be happy to make a stand.
Got to go, bye.

i did, on saturday.

we were queuing for train tickets behind a group of teenage boys. they started having a row with the train ticket bloke, and a kid yelled at him ' YOU FAT C*NT'. i said 'excuse, there are children here and we do not want to hear that language' 'yesh well, i dont care' 'well, to be honest i do care'

the lads ended up on the same train as us. they ignored me all the way and werent as cocky as they had appeared earlier.

there was a moment there when i thought i might get a kicking though

good for you misdee, if everyone did this it would be great.