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To think our government is completely taking the pi$$

32 replies

Mydogsanasshole · 06/11/2023 20:55

This is what the UK government collected in taxes 22/23…………. £1.017 Trillion in total. Divide that by 365 and that equates to 2,786,301,369.86 billions pounds a DAY. Break that down….
2.7 / 24 116,095,890 (roughly 16 million per hour)
Divide that by 60 (minutes) which equates to 1.934,931.50 million a minute.

So can someone please explain to me why our country is in the shitter. People can’t afford to eat, heat their home, are relying on food banks. Our NHS & education systems are on their knees. Where the fuck is all the money going, it sure as shit isn’t going back into our country & services.

Link is here for anyone who wants to check validity

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8513/

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Youcancallmeirrelevant · 06/11/2023 20:58

Because for the actual cost of healthcare, education and defence, that much money isn't actually that much for what it needs to be spent on.

Of course a lot gets wasted, but overall, that amount of money is nowhere near enough

Teentaxidriver · 06/11/2023 21:03

Well, why don’t you ping your bank account details to the Treasury and hopefully they might send you a wedge, but I guess only after they have paid lots and lots of bills like the interest repayments on the country’s debt (do you know anything about inflation and interest rates going up?).

Manadou · 06/11/2023 21:08

£1.017 Trillion in total. Divide that by 365 and that equates to 2,786,301,369.86 billions

£1,017,000,000,000 / 365 = 2,786,301,369.86 pounds.

Manadou · 06/11/2023 21:11

"Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery." Charles Dickens

VikingVolva · 06/11/2023 21:19

From OP:

This is what the UK government collected in taxes 22/23…………. £1.017 Trillion in total

From the document she linked:
In 2022/23, UK government raised over £1,017 billion in receipts

Hmm
Mydogsanasshole · 06/11/2023 21:24

🤣 Where have I even suggested I want a handout?? I’m trying to understand why essential services are on their knees and we can send financial aid to countless other countries when our own is struggling so badly. You are funny, I have a mortgage and …. A full time job so I’m well aware of interest rates and bless yes I do go shopping so well aware of inflation.

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Tinkerbyebye · 06/11/2023 21:25

180billion on the nhs, billions on schooling, millions on policing, fire service etc etc. soon adds up

RoseAndRose · 06/11/2023 21:26

I'm trying to find authoritative figures, but where quite a lot of it goes in in servicing the National Debt.

According to the BBC, the highest ever monthly payment was in 2022 (£20bn in June and £18bn in December) Usually it's about £12bn a month

grottyb · 06/11/2023 21:26

Services are on their knees because of years of underinvestment. The gov didn’t invest in services or it’s people so now we have this. Wages are quite low in the UK but low interest rates masked a lot of the issues.

NalafromtheLionKing · 06/11/2023 21:27

Weirdly, this is only £15 per person p.a. based on the total U.K. population.

fiftiesmum · 06/11/2023 21:28

£200 million to lady mone for useless PPE plus other dodgy deals

VeniVidiWeeWee · 06/11/2023 21:31

fiftiesmum · 06/11/2023 21:28

£200 million to lady mone for useless PPE plus other dodgy deals

What's "lady mone."

therealcookiemonster · 06/11/2023 21:31

a lot of the money ATM is going on interest payments as the government is upto its neck on debt and rates are very high

as a result of covid harebrained schemes such as buying ppe from their fucking bastard mates. and let's not forget all the loans given out that will never be paid back.

in the mean time, people are stuck on trolleys, the elderly are struggling and the school system is failing the next generation.

and no matter who we vote in, they are all the same.

User1990C · 06/11/2023 21:33

NalafromtheLionKing · 06/11/2023 21:27

Weirdly, this is only £15 per person p.a. based on the total U.K. population.

68,000,000*15=1,020,000,000
A trillion is 1,000,000,000,000.

bellac11 · 06/11/2023 21:33

Lots of that goes into private hands

Tories stand for privatising profits, socialising losses

Dont people know this already?

Tarbert12 · 06/11/2023 21:35

The UK is really inefficient collectively and individuals don't feel bad about abusing their bodies. Local authorities in other countries aren't expected to do everything they do here.
Anyway enjoy yourself as much as you can and get out before you need state support is my advice.

grottyb · 06/11/2023 21:40

And with the lack of planning for the demographic shift it’s going to get worse

lljkk · 06/11/2023 21:41

Is it about £40k per tax payer?

I can see that not going very far.

VikingVolva · 06/11/2023 21:46

VeniVidiWeeWee · 06/11/2023 21:31

What's "lady mone."

Michelle Mone, Baroness Mone - Wikipedia

fiftiesmum · 06/11/2023 21:47

@VeniVidiWeeWee lady mone is one of those people mentioned by @therealcookiemonster as being a friend of a Tory who received lots of money to supply ppe

Mydogsanasshole · 06/11/2023 21:49

I guess I’m just completely gobsmacked that our government is bringing in so much money through taxes that I’m at a loss as to why so many of our own citizens are struggling to live. I honestly can’t get my head round it. Nothing to do with what the lovely helpful @Teentaxidriver has suggested. I work, have a mortgage am well aware of interest rates & inflation but hey ho there’s always one.

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VikingVolva · 06/11/2023 21:50

User1990C · 06/11/2023 21:33

68,000,000*15=1,020,000,000
A trillion is 1,000,000,000,000.

Thread title and OP both however give a figure that should be in billions as trillions.

So it's likely that pretty much everyone is going get the figures in a knot by at least a factor of 10

therealcookiemonster · 06/11/2023 21:58

@Mydogsanasshole is it really 'our' government though? I don't remember voting for rishi 7 bins. and how functional is our democracy when the population is being led by right wing newspapers and other crazies? as a nation we just cut off our nose to spite our face, what does that say about the effectiveness of our governing system?

I wish you hadn't starter this thread in the evening OP... too angry to sleep now.

Livelovebehappy · 06/11/2023 22:24

I agree with you OP about channelling less of our money abroad, and spending it on the people in the UK, especially during the current cost of living crisis. For example, we still send foreign aid to India, who don’t need it, and have said as much (supposed to have stopped, but it’s still going there, disguised as business investment). Whenever there’s any problem, anywhere in the world, our government are always the first in line to give millions in aid. Always. We’re no longer the rich affluent country we once were, and should stop pretending we are.

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