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What fresh hell is this maths GCSE question?

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Lex345 · 05/11/2023 18:52

Please can someone help? We have textbooks for the GCSE syllabus, teacher has not been helpful explaining this to my daughter- I don't remember this from school either-

Work out an estimate for the value of

√63.5 <->0.17

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LittleMooli · 05/11/2023 19:17

Was this an actual gcse paper?

Saschka · 05/11/2023 19:18

Lex345 · 05/11/2023 19:03

Its the top one-daughter said teacher said it might mean multiply (this is a big ? But explains her notes below

60 x 0.2 is not 30….

OrangeOval · 05/11/2023 19:18

It could be 63.5 x 0.17 then? So 64x0.2= 32 as an estimate, which would be 4root2 maybe?

Cantfindutrogestan · 05/11/2023 19:18

My son who got a 9 Gcse maths and doing maths Alevel said it's 8 give or take the 0.17

OrangeOval · 05/11/2023 19:19

Ignore me! 64x0.2 = 12.8 so root 13?

Lex345 · 05/11/2023 19:20

Yes I think she got a bit confused here- so
√12 if its multiplication sign as seems to be indicated by the next question??

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Spacecowboys · 05/11/2023 19:20

My son says the answer is 7.8 or -8.2. Doing gcse this year eek. I haven’t a clue by the way 🤣

NannyGythaOgg · 05/11/2023 19:21

Lex345 · 05/11/2023 18:52

Please can someone help? We have textbooks for the GCSE syllabus, teacher has not been helpful explaining this to my daughter- I don't remember this from school either-

Work out an estimate for the value of

√63.5 <->0.17

Square root of 63.5 - answer < (less than) or >(more than) 0.17

sq root is 7.968, allowing for up to .17 more or less =8

OrangeOval · 05/11/2023 19:22

Yes root 12 would work if she's estimated to 60x0.2=12

OrangeOval · 05/11/2023 19:23

And if the symbol means x !

Lex345 · 05/11/2023 19:24

NannyGythaOgg · 05/11/2023 19:21

Square root of 63.5 - answer < (less than) or >(more than) 0.17

sq root is 7.968, allowing for up to .17 more or less =8

Ah that makes sense- so its asking for the square root of 63.5 with 0.17 degree of accuracy, logical answer is 8?

But doesn't explain the second one where she has multiplied them together and got 3 marks?

I don't remember our maths at GCSE being this hard!

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MapleSyrupWaffles · 05/11/2023 19:27

It should be multiply in both questions.

Look at the June 2019 higher maths paper edexcel, questions 8 and 9, as it's printed properly there - if your computer doesn't display it correctly, check another screen, because it is definitely multiply.

https://www.mathsgenie.co.uk/papers/1hjune2019.pdf

https://www.mathsgenie.co.uk/papers/1hjune2019.pdf

MapleSyrupWaffles · 05/11/2023 19:30

The first one is actually asking for an estimate of the square root of 63.5 x 101.7, which approximates to the square root of 64x100, ie. 8x10, or 80.

the second is 3 and 1/2 multiplied by 1 and 3/5, or 7/2 x 8/5 = 28/5 = 5 and 3/5

cakeorwine · 05/11/2023 19:30

I thought that looked a familiar question

Estimate
sqrt of (63.7 x 101.7)

So you can use sqrt 64 x sqrt100 = 8 x 10 =80

Lex345 · 05/11/2023 19:31

So this has been completely mist typed? Thank you for this paper-because the question in it is √63.5x101.7 but the subsequent Qs are identical...how on earth is she meant to decode these in an exam!

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Lex345 · 05/11/2023 19:32

Just want to say a massive thank you to everyone who took time to have a look at this-trying my hardest to help her!

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MapleSyrupWaffles · 05/11/2023 19:32

I suspect someone typed the paper out at some point but used some kind of font that wasn't recognised - or perhaps they tried to print a version from online, and again, the font or layout wasn't recognised by the priinter, and it printed incorrectly. And they've been photocopying it ever since!

The exam will be printed properly.

Changingplace · 05/11/2023 19:33

Not what you’re asking but what is the actual point of this kind of maths equation?

Like, so few jobs will ever have a need for it, I’m so glad I don’t have to do GCSE’s now!

cakeorwine · 05/11/2023 19:34

MapleSyrupWaffles · 05/11/2023 19:32

I suspect someone typed the paper out at some point but used some kind of font that wasn't recognised - or perhaps they tried to print a version from online, and again, the font or layout wasn't recognised by the priinter, and it printed incorrectly. And they've been photocopying it ever since!

The exam will be printed properly.

I would love to see what answer the teacher suggests to the question posted as printed in the OP

OrangeOval · 05/11/2023 19:35

Ah that makes sense, root (64x100) so 8x10 = 80
I hope she hasn't got too frustrated with it!

Lex345 · 05/11/2023 19:36

cakeorwine · 05/11/2023 19:34

I would love to see what answer the teacher suggests to the question posted as printed in the OP

I am going to ask if the teacher can show their working for it on my daughter's paper, since they have not gone through it or shown the answer. She is trying to get an 8 or 9- and got a very very poor mark in this exam. I suspect we may find further typos as we go through the paper

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ErrolTheDragon · 05/11/2023 19:37

Lex345 · 05/11/2023 19:31

So this has been completely mist typed? Thank you for this paper-because the question in it is √63.5x101.7 but the subsequent Qs are identical...how on earth is she meant to decode these in an exam!

An actual exam paper should be printed correctly!

OrangeOval · 05/11/2023 19:38

I expect her confidence was knocked by the format and she then felt less able to risk take in the harder questions. I hope she feels better about her mark now she knows about the typos

Lex345 · 05/11/2023 19:40

OrangeOval · 05/11/2023 19:38

I expect her confidence was knocked by the format and she then felt less able to risk take in the harder questions. I hope she feels better about her mark now she knows about the typos

Yes it was but now I have shown her the actual question she feels much better

Thank you so much everyone

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Spacecowboys · 05/11/2023 19:40

80.8 without the typo