To send my Ukrainian ex-guest her tax number?

[Mmmkaay]

Bit of a long story but I'll try to keep it as brief as I can - last year we hosted a Ukrainian mother and 18yr old daughter from April to September. They were ok mostly but had a habit of withholding the truth (and major strops if they didn't get their own way but that's another story!) It turned out after 2 months that they weren't in danger in Ukraine but needed to earn money. Eventually they returned - daughter wanted to be back with her boyfriend and mum had made enough to pay for her second year at university so fair enough, we parted on ok terms, not close but no big fall outs.

Fast forward to a couple of weeks ago and mum gets in touch to say she's in the UK again, living in Ramsgate, she came to England to visit her husband (not sure how he got here, he couldn't leave the country last year) discovered he had another woman, was divorcing him and has found a job. Her daughter has moved in with her boyfriend in Ukraine so she's on her own. The reason she got in touch with me was because she had applied for her personal tax code and it was being sent to my address! And could I send it on? I was a bit pissed off, and responded that it seemed that as usual, she had only got in touch when she wanted something. (TBH I doubt she'd have got in touch at all had she not needed something from me.)

This letter has now arrived at my address - she tells me that she has informed HMRC of her new address but still wants me to send the letter to her as she needs the code. I'm not sure whether to do this - I've offered to open it, photograph the contents and send to her but she says she needs the original. I do feel sorry for her as I think she's clearly had a hard time recently (assuming she's telling me the truth) but am I opening myself up for trouble if HMRC think she's still associated with my address? Is there a reason she needs the original copy?

YABU - send the poor woman her letter!
YANBU - you'll have hordes of debt collectors on your doorstep if you don't disassociate yourself now

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I'd probably fib & tell her HMRC check against electoral role & other council records and nothing's arrived because she isn't living here, and that she needs to request it at her current address.

I wouldn’t personally I’d return to HMRC and say she doesn’t live there. Also Check your credit to make sure nothing untoward pops up.

Dear god she just wants her NINO FFS. Just send it on.

If she lives here on the UK what would be the advantage to her to pretend to live at your address?

Could you tell her the steps to opening a government gateway if she hasn't already so she could get a new letter sent to her current address?

You did a good thing having people stay with you from Ukraine. She's just a real person though, with flaws and her own problems. She can't be permanently grateful and live a perfect life. Especially in the situation she was in. It's not a book.

Can you not send her the number AND tell HMRC the truth?

You could say “I forwarded it on but in fact she doesn’t live here, she’s at X”?

Getting her NINO to the wrong address because HMRC are rubbish with address changes is nothing at all to do with "debt collectors". You obviously don't like her but there's no need to stick the boot in.

Oh and I'd contact HMRC and say she's not resident at your address.

I wouldn't send it.

Seems really dodgy to me

I'd send her the bloody number, poor woman!

You did a good thing having people stay with you from Ukraine. She's just a real person though, with flaws and her own problems. She can't be permanently grateful and live a perfect life. Especially in the situation she was in. It's not a book.

Also this.

And i think everyone in Ukraine is still in danger. The Russians bombed Lviv not long ago, and it’s as far from the border as you like - everyone claims it’s safe. You never quite know where strikes will be sadly.

I don’t understand why you are willing to send her a photo of it, but not the original?

It matters for things like benefit claims.

The ukrainian could be living with family in the uk and trying to ensure her income doesn't reduce the household benefit entitlement by saying she's living elsewhere and its not a great idea for OP to facilitate that. As a minimum she should confirm to HMRC she isn't living there.

It turned out after 2 months that they weren't in danger in Ukraine

Easy to say when you live in a country that's not currrently being invaded

Letter from the tax office is considered proof of address for all sorts of things. It's not her address and you should send it back. The reason they send the letter and not just notify you electronically is a cross check you live there. They will issue it to her correct address when she notifies them.
The only reason they sent it to your house is that she told them that was her permanant address in UK. She lied. Send it back.

We forward on letters to our ex Ukrainian guests and still support them with advice. The local council know their new address as yours probably will, I’d just forward it on.

Why not send it on but also photograph the envelope and then also contact HMRC to say no longer at this address and give the new one

YANBU. You will regret it if you let her keep using your address. Just return to sender.

It probably takes weeks to get Hmrc to change your address and resend. Plus it may be a letter where she has to look under a panel for the code. I'd just post it to her.

I'd post it to her, not sure why you think you'd end up with dept collectors at your door.

She’s applied without updating her address. Whatever her reasoning is I wouldn’t want hmrc thinking she lived at my house when she didn’t. I’d return to sender and follow up with a person does not reside here email for a paper trail.

God you sound petty. Just forward it on.

Also this sounds unnecessarily rude:

The reason she got in touch with me was because she had applied for her personal tax code and it was being sent to my address! And could I send it on? I was a bit pissed off, and responded that it seemed that as usual, she had only got in touch when she wanted something.

I'd deny it has arrived. Sending it to her provides her recent proof that she "lives" in your house. No way would I be handing it over.

You shouldn't forward any tax letters or official documents to anyone. You should send them back then there is a record that they do not live there for anything official. This is quite important as all sorts of things can be associated with your property if someone officially lives there, as they do until you or them tell the tax office. If you send them on you are assuming she will notify the tax office. She has already shown she doesn't want to do that for some reason.
Always send official docs back saying not at this address.

Send her the letter, but if anything else comes, return it to HMRC.

HMRC won’t talk to you anyway if you tell them she doesn’t live there. (I once rang to tell them a company they were trying to collect money from at my address had been struck off several years ago, and they still wanted to go through security.)

I think you need to send it back.

An NI number and the accompanying documentation is the start to almost everything you can do financially in UK. This is obviously recent and she's used your add4ess when she's not living there. Why would she do that if there's nothing untoward?