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To ask if you have 4 British Grandparents?

513 replies

ThornInMySide84 · 05/11/2023 10:11

In conversation with friends last night about the perks of still having an EU passport I discovered I was the only one with all 4 Grandparents being British.

DH also has 1 non British Grandparent and now when I really think about it so do a lot of my other friends. I would say the majority have an Irish Grandparent but also Spanish, Indian, Chinese, Polish, Maltese and Italian amongst my close friends.

I recall reading somewhere that 25% of British people could get an Irish passport so I guess I’m now wondering if having all 4 British Grandparents are not being entitled to any other nationality is actually quite uncommon?

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Cottagecheeseisnotcheese · 06/11/2023 17:45

all 16 of my great grand parents are English and everyone further back we have traced is the same, DH all 8 of his great grandparents were highland Scots there seems to have been little movement of family since 17th century, there have been family members that have emigrated to USA though

Saturatedfattyacid · 06/11/2023 18:10

One parent immigrant from Europe so two grandparents European and the others are of Irish and Scottish ancestry. Have recently had my citizenship of the European country confirmed so am now a dual national as are all my descendants. I started the process as soon as Brexit was confirmed and it has been a rigmarole but I was so angry about my EU membership being removed and I did it for my children and their opportunities.

Ozgirl75 · 06/11/2023 18:26

Oh is that right?! I didn’t know that.

jcyclops · 06/11/2023 19:31

1 Welsh (with Irish origins in an older generation) and 3 English grandparents. My father's surname almost certainly means my paternal ancestry from 400 years ago must have been Huguenot.

Butchyrestingface · 06/11/2023 19:36

I'm mid 40s. All grandparents Scottish born. Only my great grandparents were Irish so no bastarding passport for me. 😩

Notanotherhousepost · 06/11/2023 19:38

Yes. 47.

Although if my gran had registered my mum as a foreign birth I could have an Irish one

DreamingInPhosphorescence · 06/11/2023 19:47

Between us me and dh have English, Scottish and Welsh ancestry. There’s one French great, great, great, etc. grandparent on my side. That’s it afaik.

Pushkinini · 06/11/2023 19:57

All completely British. Paternal GM and maternal GP with Scots roots, other GM was Welsh and the other GP English. I've traced my family tree way back and there is not one spot of foreign blood anywhere.

verdantverdure · 06/11/2023 20:11

Butchyrestingface · 06/11/2023 19:36

I'm mid 40s. All grandparents Scottish born. Only my great grandparents were Irish so no bastarding passport for me. 😩

You can buy one from Cyprus if you're rich enough.

Glittertwins · 06/11/2023 20:15

Both DH and I had one non British grandparent each. Our DCs have 4 British though.

StoatofDisarray · 06/11/2023 20:44

Yes. Two Welsh, two Cornish. I wouldn't be surprised if their grandparents were also British! I'm in my mid 50s.

LlynTegid · 06/11/2023 20:56

None are alive now, but only two were born in the UK and one in a British dependent territory, the fourth in Europe.

GrumpNoDog · 06/11/2023 21:19

Even if you have a grandparent from the EU, doesn't mean you can get citizenship from that country. Ireland is quite unique in this arrangement.

I'm from an EU country. My future British born granchildren cannot get citizenship from my country if their parents (my child, born in the UK) do not get theirs first.

verdantverdure · 07/11/2023 09:02

Cottagecheeseisnotcheese · 06/11/2023 17:45

all 16 of my great grand parents are English and everyone further back we have traced is the same, DH all 8 of his great grandparents were highland Scots there seems to have been little movement of family since 17th century, there have been family members that have emigrated to USA though

In England we're all a bit Norman aren't we? And Viking?

verdantverdure · 07/11/2023 09:08

Etincelle · 06/11/2023 15:45

If only there was a way of giving EU passport privileges to those who voted to Remain and banning people who voted Leave from having them, rather than it being random luck eh!

I do think the people who wanted Brexit should put their money where their mouth is and pay for it.

It costs our country £100billion a year. How much is that each shared between 17 million? About £6000 a year each?

enchantedsquirrelwood · 07/11/2023 09:15

Yes all of mine were British, in fact English, born. Three of my eight great-grandparents were Irish - with regards to EU passports, my maternal grandparents could have chosen their place of birth more wisely :)

CharismaticMegafauna · 07/11/2023 09:17

Two of my grandparents were born in England and the other two in Poland and Palestine. I don't think it would be easy to get Polish citizenship and thus an EU passport however.

FarmGirl78 · 07/11/2023 09:48

All my relatives are British to at least Great great grandparents, probably a few more generations further back from that too. My Nan used to claim she was a bit Irish but there's no evidence of this whatsoever.

verdantverdure · 07/11/2023 10:00

enchantedsquirrelwood · 07/11/2023 09:15

Yes all of mine were British, in fact English, born. Three of my eight great-grandparents were Irish - with regards to EU passports, my maternal grandparents could have chosen their place of birth more wisely :)

If only they'd known! Grin

verdantverdure · 07/11/2023 10:37

CharismaticMegafauna · 07/11/2023 09:17

Two of my grandparents were born in England and the other two in Poland and Palestine. I don't think it would be easy to get Polish citizenship and thus an EU passport however.

No, probably not.

I honestly don't think people realised what they were giving up and taking away from future generations.

All my eldest wants to do is take a gap year and travel round Europe like his dad did and thanks to Brexit it's not really possible to do that.

OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea · 07/11/2023 10:56

I did not have 4 British grandparents. I didn't even have 2 British parents.

I could get an EU passport and therefore then get my children one. I really do need to sort it out. Just paperwork and money.

verdantverdure · 07/11/2023 10:59

OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea · 07/11/2023 10:56

I did not have 4 British grandparents. I didn't even have 2 British parents.

I could get an EU passport and therefore then get my children one. I really do need to sort it out. Just paperwork and money.

My eldest is pinning his hopes on getting Brexit cancelled. Cheaper for us AND cheaper for the country as a whole Grin

MadeleineMummy · 07/11/2023 11:17

My mother is from Lincolnshire and is British through and through. My Dad is American but he has Irish and German ancestry. Lots of people I know (I live in London) have one or more Dutch, French, Swedish, West African, South Asian, Swiss, Polish or Lithuanian grandparent.

tabulaisrasa · 07/11/2023 11:44

CasperGutman · 05/11/2023 10:14

Yes. In fact, everyone I can find in my family history going back at least four generations is determinedly British, to my rather illogical slight disappointment!

Same. Always wanted something more interesting in my ancestry than White British, but that's all I've got.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 07/11/2023 16:26

The only way forward for my ds is to go and live in Ireland for the requisite period and then apply for Irish citizenship.

Or marry someone with an EEA passport.

Or both.

I do hope the Brexiteers are happy that they took away opportunities from our youngsters who were too young to even vote.