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To want a HOT chocolate?

163 replies

AlwaysTheBabysitter · 01/11/2023 09:08

I know it's me and that I'm an uncultured swine with an asbestos mouth, but I'm starting to feel disappointed whenever I try out a lovely, independent shop which prides themselves on doing a spectacular hot chocolate, only to be given a cup of (admittedly delicious) lukewarm chocolate instead. Which is no good when I want to sit and savour it, and do the whole 'two hands around the mug, jumper sleeves dangling to my fingers' thing. Instead I end up having to gulp it down before it actually goes cold.

I did mention it at my local coffee shop when they started doing the same with their coffees, only to be told that it's the optimum temperature for the beans, and I've heard that the Hotel Chocolat Velvetiser produces lukewarm chocolate too. So I suppose the experts have spoken!

Looks like I'll have to stick to tea.

OP posts:
StaunchMomma · 01/11/2023 16:32

I agree, OP. I've started asking for extra hot, too.

I do think it would probably be ok if you got a small one with no additions and necked it in seconds, but if you're going in on a seasonal, flavoured treat of a hot choc with cream, one that you really want to take your time over, the syrups and cream cool the overall drink and it does taste lukewarm.

potatoheads · 01/11/2023 16:50

LifeofBrienne · 01/11/2023 09:12

What about mocha coffee? To me that tastes like ‘grown up hot chocolate’, a bit less sweet and more bitter, like dark chocolate. But I guess not to everyone’s taste.

Belugh no. I dislike flavoured coffees intensely. Ruins coffee.

potatoheads · 01/11/2023 16:56

greenhydrangea · 01/11/2023 09:19

I don't drink coffee, and can not think of a single cafe hot chocolate that was ever more than or often even close to being lukewarm. They can make the milk hot enough for a latte, but don't seem to bother for a "hot" chocolate. Served in a mug the size of a thimble, while they're at it. Tea is just as disappointing - it's either ten teaspoons of leaf in a tiny pot, or a single teabag on the side of a saucer with a leaky metal teapot that dribbles, so the tea is either stewed to the max and undrinkable or too long past its point of heat (aka boiling) where the teabag will produce a nice hot cup of tea. A glass of tap water is a more exciting drink in most cafes.

Latte has lots of 100c hot water. Hot chocolate or at least decent hot chocolate doesn't. It's all milk and milk can't be heated past 80c so it's not difficult to understand why one is hotter than the other.

potatoheads · 01/11/2023 16:59

pizzaHeart · 01/11/2023 09:33

You are not unreasonable at all.
i’ve also noticed another thing. One person asks what hot drinks you want whereas another serves the rest and takes your money. The money side usually takes much longer so here I’m looking at my hot chocolate (or coffee) waiting for me and cooling down while I’m practically boiling inside from anger. I don’t want very hot drinks but I want them hot, I absolutely hate them lukewarm.
Or at some places they bring you hot drink first and then you wait for ages for your sandwich or your cake which is my pet hate as I always eat first drink last. I nearly cried at our local Heavenly dessert the other day when they brought my coffee first and then cake 10 minutes later.

Where are you going that the cashier takes longer than the coffee maker? The cashier takes the order yes? Then tells the barista. So the barista is only starting when the cashier is taking your money

sueelleker · 01/11/2023 17:06

jammysmol ; they do an 85% and a 100% dark too.

cathcath2 · 01/11/2023 17:17

I completely get it. We've stopped going to one local place as they can't make drinks hot (even black coffee isn't hot).

MonumentalLentil · 01/11/2023 17:51

Oganesson118 · 01/11/2023 09:24

@AlwaysTheBabysitter the jumper should usually be a sort of burnt orange colour

No, it is a cream cable knit. The woman has inflated lips.

AtomicBlondeRose · 01/11/2023 18:41

I make hot chocolate at home by heating milk in a pan until it just starts to bubble then adding the powder. Otherwise it isn’t hot enough. It doesn’t seem burnt to me - that’s the traditional way to make it isn’t it?

ErrolTheDragon · 01/11/2023 18:48

Justmuddlingalong · 01/11/2023 13:50

The hotter the drink, the longer you're taking up a seat. It's probably a bloody ploy so you drink your tepid beverage and piss off quickly.

If that was their plan then they'd put more than a splash of milk in tea.

Oganesson118 · 01/11/2023 19:26

MonumentalLentil · 01/11/2023 17:51

No, it is a cream cable knit. The woman has inflated lips.

And a chestnut brown coloured bouncy blow dry.

greenhydrangea · 01/11/2023 20:55

potatoheads · 01/11/2023 16:56

Latte has lots of 100c hot water. Hot chocolate or at least decent hot chocolate doesn't. It's all milk and milk can't be heated past 80c so it's not difficult to understand why one is hotter than the other.

The past must have existed in another dimension, along with my current kitchen, as I can heat milk until it is just about to boil, as did the cafes of the past, as did I when I was waitressing as a young woman.

The boiling temperature of milk is much the same as that of water, btw.

Hadalifeonce · 01/11/2023 21:02

I have been known to ask for hot chocolate to be heated up in cafés.
I run my velvetiser about 3 times and pre heat my mug.

BarbaraofSeville · 01/11/2023 21:09

Hadalifeonce · 01/11/2023 21:02

I have been known to ask for hot chocolate to be heated up in cafés.
I run my velvetiser about 3 times and pre heat my mug.

Can they actually do this? A few times I've thought that my drink could have done with a minute in the microwave, but haven't asked because I'd assume they'd have a long list of reasons why it simply isn't possible.

And from another thread, the microwave will be too busy warming up pre-prepared scrambled eggs anyway.

ichundich · 01/11/2023 21:21

Hot chocolate is disappointing in most places - too cold, too sickly, not made with actual milk, etc. I hardly bother ordering it now. Tea is a gamble as well since many places don't boil the water anymore but use a machine where it comes out at 80 degrees, which means the tea doesn't brew.

Hadalifeonce · 01/11/2023 21:43

@BarbaraofSeville
They seemed to have some it so far...

princefamilypaper · 01/11/2023 21:58

I'm the same. When I make a latte at home I have to put it in the microwave. I like my drinks boiling.

IsThereABarUpThere · 01/11/2023 22:29

@DappledThings

Ah thank you that makes sense. Never heard of the saying before!

pizzaHeart · 01/11/2023 22:30

potatoheads · 01/11/2023 16:59

Where are you going that the cashier takes longer than the coffee maker? The cashier takes the order yes? Then tells the barista. So the barista is only starting when the cashier is taking your money

A lot of small places have 2 people, one of them ( barista) is doing hot drinks and another ( cashier) does food (cakes, muffins, etc), cold drinks and takes money. The barista often asks people in the queue which hot drinks they want and starts making them while the cashier is still dealing with the previous customer.
As to places where they take order at the table ( e.g Heavenly desserts) I have no idea what they do as a waiter usually takes your order and then brings it back

MustDust · 01/11/2023 22:39

100% yes to this. I returned some on Saturday for not even being tepid. Got a stunning one on Sunday though so made up for it a bit.
I'm the person who drinks my tea while others are still blowing on theirs though.

xyz111 · 01/11/2023 22:54

I hate a lukewarm hot chocolate!!!!
Sounds like it shouldn't be nice, but I like a McDonald's hot chocolate. And it's hot!!!

LaChatte · 01/11/2023 23:01

On your trip round Europe be sure to stop off at Angelina's in Paris.

SteggySawUs · 01/11/2023 23:22

I've found my people!!!
I always ask for extra hot. Very rarely do I get it. If I've paid £4 for a drink (chai latte being my fave) I want to savour it for more than a couple of minutes. And if I'm meeting a friend in a coffee shop I want my drink to last for a reasonable amount of our time together by slowly sipping it, but if it's already drinking temperature for me then it's gone in seconds.
How do you ask for extra hot in a way that communicates that you want your drink to last and be savoured?!!!

MBM18 · 02/11/2023 07:06

YABU, I have to ask for cold milk to be added as they're always too hot Confused

Sexlivesofthepotatomen · 02/11/2023 09:09

MBM18 · 02/11/2023 07:06

YABU, I have to ask for cold milk to be added as they're always too hot Confused

You must go to the ONLY place that they are hot then judging from all the responses on this thread

MorrisZapp · 02/11/2023 12:55

McDonalds hot chocolate is brilliant.

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