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Who actually benefits from changing the clocks?

593 replies

shockwaze · 31/10/2023 06:13

Kids up at 5:30. Pretty sure that the same thing has happened in many, many houses this morning.

It's just an hour, but so disruptive to children.

Who benefits? Winds me up every year.

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Itsbritneybitch22 · 31/10/2023 08:05

Why do people do posts like this asking a question then get the answer and are like no because of this or ‘fuck them’.

Its not people’s opinions OP it’s literally what people are answering for your question, the OP updates read like a teenage girl .. yea but 😅

Brumbies · 31/10/2023 08:07

People like you OP puss me off, it's all me me me

fetchacloth · 31/10/2023 08:08

Energy companies gain massively. Lights have to go on earlier and so does the heating 😩

In these financially constrained times it's about time we resurrected the idea of BST all year round or even double BST.

ShatteredPeace · 31/10/2023 08:08

Edinburgh is 100% not south west of Bristol. It is north west of Bristol.

Willyoujustbequiet · 31/10/2023 08:08

instaready · 31/10/2023 06:27

Scotland benefits. Kids would be waking to school in the dark otherwise.

It's not just Scotland.

Parts of England are actually further north than parts of Scotland.

Pooooochi · 31/10/2023 08:09

Spain a couple of weeks ago, which is geographically in the wrong time zone. It should be on the same as the UK, Portugal and Ireland but aligns with France and Germany etc. It was a bit weird that it was still dark while 8.30 am, but the big advantage was that it was light in the evening until about 8 pm, so much better for being out and about then, when more people have time to do so.

Spain is a much hotter country than the uk. This means they have a cultural practice of sleeping during the mid afternoon when its too hot to go, and staying up later in the cooler evenings. Its also further south, so they don't have the very short winter days we have in the north of the uk.

This pattern does not make sense in the uk where its cooler and we need to make use of the daytime weather.

Stroopwaffels · 31/10/2023 08:09

I think the Spanish school day ends much later & school bus services are more of a thing then here.

No - Spanish schools start earlier (8am - 8.30am) and finish around 2.

grottyb · 31/10/2023 08:09

It's funny seeing some "super mums" dishing out parenting advice on these sort of threads. Just goes to show some people have absolutely no idea how easy their children are in some respects compared to others and show no insight into the fact that's often down to luck rather than judgment.

One of my dc woke early regardless of the clocks changing!

curaçao · 31/10/2023 08:10

shockwaze · 31/10/2023 06:28

They'll be walking home in the dark anyway. Makes no difference

Schools tend to finish before the hump of tge rush hour, whereas most people startbwirk around tge sane time school starts.
The clocks goung back is lovely for most people as tgey get an extra hour in bed.

Willyoujustbequiet · 31/10/2023 08:10

shockwaze · 31/10/2023 06:28

They'll be walking home in the dark anyway. Makes no difference

It does because kids are more alert if they haven't just got up.

The accident stats from the trial proved that.

ithinkthatmaybeimdreaming · 31/10/2023 08:10

It benefits me! I love daylight saving and the long evenings in summer. As do many other people. At the end of summer I'm quite happy to have the clocks go back again. I'm not in the UK but surely you have just gone back to "normal" time?

grottyb · 31/10/2023 08:11

@Stroopwaffels thats not my sisters experience, perhaps it’s different depending on location. And it’s common for secondaries to finish at 2pm?

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 31/10/2023 08:11

Do you ever go on holiday somewhere with a different time zone?

it’s annoying for a couple of days but then they adjust and there have been studies/trials and for now it’s been decided that there is more benefits to changing the clocks than not. Maybe not for you personally but it’s about what’s best for society as a whole rather than one individual.

GRex · 31/10/2023 08:11

Pooooochi · 31/10/2023 08:01

Please explain what exactly you think prevents a farmer from getting up at 5.30 in summer and 6.30 in winter, if they feel those are the best working hours for their farm.

Farm land tends to be in rural locations where there is next to no lighting whatsoever. No street lighting and no access to mains electricity to run any.

Imagine trying to check your crop for a deadly fungus in pitch black, or repair fences.

The point is to align the timing of the (limited) hours of light we have in mid winter, with the working day

Good lord, urea like pulling teeth. Nobody is preventing the farmer from leaving their own house an hour later.

Ineedaholiday23 · 31/10/2023 08:11

2pm? 4 pm in northern Scotland!

Icopewhenihope · 31/10/2023 08:12

Well it suits me just fine, I love it and guess what? The exact same thing will happen next year at the exact same time. Love the dark evenings, bring it on!

Willyoujustbequiet · 31/10/2023 08:12

AmandasFleckerl · 31/10/2023 06:41

Every year as my dad is changing the clock in the kitchen he complains claiming that it’s only done for the benefit of schoolchildren in Scotland.

Tell him it's the north too.

CreeperBoom · 31/10/2023 08:14

Everyone in the North of the country benefits, and it doesn't really harm anyone in the south apart from moaning about changing the clocks twice per year.

Even if the clocks didn't go back, it will be dark by evening rush hour for most of the country by December. But if they didn't go back, it would also be dark until after 9 in the North.

Lots of people wouldn't see daylight all week, and kids would arrive at school in the dark. There is evidence about the reduction in traffic accidents - it does save lives.

MassageForLife · 31/10/2023 08:14

ShatteredPeace · 31/10/2023 08:08

Edinburgh is 100% not south west of Bristol. It is north west of Bristol.

No, it's pretty much north, but slightly east.

CheeseCakeSunflowers · 31/10/2023 08:14

This thread is making me think about my cousin, a farmer who lives alone. He can't be bothered to change his clocks during the winter so just stays on summertime. When I invite him for Christmas dinner at 3pm he says, great that will be 4pm for me then. Its certainly not his fault everyone else is changing their clocks.

Utterbunkum · 31/10/2023 08:16

Porridgewithnuts · 31/10/2023 06:37

I suspect OP lives in the south and doesn’t know many farmers!!

Aaargh.

Disgruntled Devon girl, now living in North Yorkshire and really fed up of hearing about 'the South'. You don't mean the South. You mean London. At best, you mean the South East (which still has farmers, btw).
Sorry to derail the thread, but I have seen a lot of North/South comments and it's always the same. England doesn't end in Surrey, you know. There's a lot more 'South', and an awful lot of it is farmland.

grottyb · 31/10/2023 08:16

Isn’t it better for health/circadian rhythm to experience light at the beginning of the day?

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 31/10/2023 08:17

Willyoujustbequiet · 31/10/2023 08:08

It's not just Scotland.

Parts of England are actually further north than parts of Scotland.

Could you explain that please?

Mumoftwotoddlers · 31/10/2023 08:18

Did you not adjust their bedtimes the week leading up to it OP? I'm guessing not given how upset you are about an annual occurrence, remember for next year

MassageForLife · 31/10/2023 08:18

MassageForLife · 31/10/2023 08:14

No, it's pretty much north, but slightly east.

Gah!! Autocorrected. I mean slightly west.

But I'm just being a pendant so you can ignore me 😆