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To intensely dislike the “y/ie” suffix name craze?

343 replies

feelingnotbelieving · 28/10/2023 11:31

Alfie Archie Albie Blakie Bertie Denny Ellie Evie Edie Georgie Lenny Ralphie Ronnie Reggie Vinny.

Today I came across a Jeffie. Why?!

If want to give you kid an old fashioned name, then name it Alfred, Eleanor, Leonard or Vincent. Or Jeffrey.

Added to the naff-ness of it is the fact that when that child starts school, he’s going to be one in at least half a dozen others with the same name.

I just find it it very unoriginal and effortless to give your child a “trendy” name that 50% of parents seem to also be naming their child. I’m assuming they think it’s quirky or cute but I can’t be the only person who thinks it’s naff and tasteless.

I get sometimes it’s to honour a relative. My grandad was called Bernard, but if I wanted to name my son after him I wouldn’t name him Bernie. I’d call him Bernard. As that was my grandads name.

OP posts:
tpxqi · 28/10/2023 14:13

People on this thread are clearly being deliberately dense. OP didn’t say anything about the full version of the name being shortened as a nickname. Like Anthony to Tony. She is talking about people naming their kids the shortened version. Like Albie. No Albert shortened to Albie. Just Albie.

McHelenz · 28/10/2023 14:14

I have an Ernie and Daisy...and a dog called Dougie. You'll hate our house.

duchiebun · 28/10/2023 14:15

I worked in hr in the city - my boss was ruthless when it came to how professional names were

@Ap24 really? Where? I’ve heard lots of different names in banking & mc law.

tpxqi · 28/10/2023 14:15

BoomBoom70 · 28/10/2023 14:12

I think you need to get a life / hobby / friends / interests etc. What a weird post!

No more weirder than you choosing to open a thread knowing the content and then posting here. Perhaps take your own advice.

AngeloMysterioso · 28/10/2023 14:15

I know more than one person who has named their child Dotty.

Why? Just… why???

SoShallINever · 28/10/2023 14:16

Hasn't it always been this way though? My Grandad was Jack, known as Jackie. My Grandmother was Miriam, known as Millie.

InsomniacA · 28/10/2023 14:17

tpxqi · 28/10/2023 13:57

You are not wrong OP. It’s chavvy. No pun intended.

Exactly.

Mary, Emily, and Felicity are clearly chav names. Absolutely.

Hayliebells · 28/10/2023 14:17

You don't have to follow the "craze" (not a craze btw) and call your children names ending in ie/y you know. And what's all this "this is OK, this is not OK" about? Who made you the name police?

duchiebun · 28/10/2023 14:17

She is talking about people naming their kids the shortened version. Like Albie. No Albert shortened to Albie. Just Albie.

But unless you see a birth certificate how do you know when a stranger calls it out? And who cares if it’s the shortened version? I know so many Jo’s, Liz’s, Kate’s that hate the long version of their names.

duchiebun · 28/10/2023 14:19

Now obviously these people are all arseholes, but they are successful arseholes, which counts for something.

😆

Goldbar · 28/10/2023 14:20

LuckySantangelo35 · 28/10/2023 12:12

I know what you mean OP - too cute

Those names aren't my cup of tea either, but I would throw Poppy in with them as being amongst the most saccharine - definitely up there with Evie, Elsie, Rosie, Daisy and Esme.

Just shows how tastes differ, I guess. I know lots of children with these sorts of names and, strangely enough, they all grow to suit them. And then you come to associate the name with the child and end up liking it.

duchiebun · 28/10/2023 14:20

It’s chavvy.

Are people still using this word?

SoShallINever · 28/10/2023 14:20

AngeloMysterioso · 28/10/2023 14:15

I know more than one person who has named their child Dotty.

Why? Just… why???

I actually love that, and my DC have as traditional names as they come. I also love Kitty. To me they are very old fashioned names and I've known lovely older ladies with both names.

Goldbar · 28/10/2023 14:21

AngeloMysterioso · 28/10/2023 14:15

I know more than one person who has named their child Dotty.

Why? Just… why???

I quite like Dotty 😂.

Hoolahoophop · 28/10/2023 14:21

Are you not missing the point? Most of the y/ie's I know have lovely full names, Alfred, Evelyn, Eleanor, Frederick but shortened to Alfie, Evie, Ellie and Freddie as babies because their full names seem very Big for babies and it's stuck in the family, at school it's evolving again. A couple of Fred's and an Eve admittedly still an El/Els or Ellie. I'm very disappointed not to have found a Herbert or Earnest my two all time favourite boys names but sadly not loved by my dh

LolaSmiles · 28/10/2023 14:23

Are people still using this word?
They are, and if they don't they just find another way of referring to the group of people who dress/look/behave a certain way because it isn't middle of the road working class culture.

I don't like the word, but there's no getting away from the fact that when someone says it most people know exactly what's being referred to.

duchiebun · 28/10/2023 14:23

I know more than one person who has named their child Dotty.

Maybe they like dots?

I like it, much nicer than Harriet or Amelia imo.

duchiebun · 28/10/2023 14:24

@LolaSmiles that’s why i’m confused though. I think it’s very common among the middle classes to have names like Teddy, Bertie, Alfie etc.

LolaSmiles · 28/10/2023 14:29

@LolaSmiles that’s why i’m confused though. I think it’s very common among the middle classes to have names like Teddy, Bertie, Alfie etc
I don't want to put words into other people's mouths, but I'm going to guess that the line of thought would be it's fine to have the full name on the birth certificate, then use whatever diminutive day to day, but there's something "chavvy" about picking the trending diminutive as the child's 'proper' name.

So Albert with nickname Bertie wouldn't be considered chavvy, but having Reggie on the birth certificate would be

I disagree, but I think that's the argument.

SmudgeButt · 28/10/2023 14:30

If those are the kids actual names rather than abbreviations they are going to have people correcting them all their lives. One of my brothers has a name that is often used as a short form and mom had to take his birth certificate to the school when he was young. The teacher called him by the longer name and he refused to reply as that wasn't his name so mom had to prove that he was right and the teacher was wrong. He's had to do similar a number of times as an adult.

SamAndEIIa · 28/10/2023 14:33

SmudgeButt · 28/10/2023 14:30

If those are the kids actual names rather than abbreviations they are going to have people correcting them all their lives. One of my brothers has a name that is often used as a short form and mom had to take his birth certificate to the school when he was young. The teacher called him by the longer name and he refused to reply as that wasn't his name so mom had to prove that he was right and the teacher was wrong. He's had to do similar a number of times as an adult.

Wouldn’t be the case now. Registration is done electronically, you could put ding dong head in the known as box and that would show up on the register, which would be what the teacher would call them. It’s also super easy to change.

duchiebun · 28/10/2023 14:37

If those are the kids actual names rather than abbreviations they are going to have people correcting them all their lives

why? If someone introduces themselves to me as Liz or Lizzie I call them that as opposed to Elizabeth. But i’m not a dick…

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 28/10/2023 14:37

feelingnotbelieving · 28/10/2023 12:02

I’ll add, because I forgot to in my OP, that if a parent calls their child Alfred and Alfred is on the birth certificate etc and then as he grows up gets shortened to Alfie that’s ok. Because his name is actually Alfred. If his relatives or mates shorten it to Alfie then that’s fine. Although still two syllables so not really shortening it… Just call him Alfred or Alf if you want to shorten it.

Alf reminds me of that alien monster tv character

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 28/10/2023 14:38

Personally there are names I don't like, but I say name your kid what you want. Within reason*

*within reason being not something stupid like Moon Boots. Not meaning 'what other people will like'.

duchiebun · 28/10/2023 14:39

@LolaSmiles it seems ridiculous to me but i’m not English 🤷🏻‍♀️